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Sam Altman (OpenAI) and Dario Amodei (Anthropic) Refuse to Hold Hands

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Re: Sam Altman (OpenAI) and Dario Amodei (Anthropic) Refuse to Hold Hands

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I for one refuse to be thrilled by the shallow affairs of ephemeral celebs

What makes you think their fame will be ephemeral? All of the tech billionaires from the 90s, 00s, and 10s are still constantly in the news for better or worse.

Re: Sam Altman (OpenAI) and Dario Amodei (Anthropic) Refuse to Hold Hands

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Why being childish is bad, but following arbitrary conventions is good?

Say that again real slow and listen to your words. The fact that social conventions are arbitrary is wholly irrelevant. Everyone knows, and you are not smart or insightful for pointing it out. Social norms and conventions are arbitrary, evolved constructs. Individually we follow social norms as this is how you get accepted by and participate in society. Breaking the social norms is generally punished either directly…

Wholly agree.

I'd also add that it's not about the relevance of the conventions, but one's (in)ability to "read the room" and follow the conventions signals to others how well-adapted (or "aligned") of a human they are.

Not following conventions may be a result of inability to recognize them or outright disrespect and/or unwilling to cooperate, play by rules, honor the social contract, etc.

Re: Sam Altman (OpenAI) and Dario Amodei (Anthropic) Refuse to Hold Hands

#15

Lots of bad blood and betrayal between them.

Still totally shameful that they can't hold hands for 10 seconds in a symbolic show of unity. Like divorced parents who can't get along for the good of their children, it reflects extremely poorly on both of them.

Re: Sam Altman (OpenAI) and Dario Amodei (Anthropic) Refuse to Hold Hands

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why being childish is bad, but following arbitrary conventions is good?

Say that again real slow and listen to your words. The fact that social conventions are arbitrary is wholly irrelevant. Everyone knows, and you are not smart or insightful for pointing it out. Social norms and conventions are arbitrary, evolved constructs. Individually we follow social norms as this is how you get accepted by and participate in society. Breaking the social norms is generally punished either directly…

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Re: Sam Altman (OpenAI) and Dario Amodei (Anthropic) Refuse to Hold Hands

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Why being childish is bad, but following arbitrary conventions is good?

In this case its about showing good judgement. Good judgement is putting the unity of the group above your own petty rivalries, when all the group is asking you to do is hold hands for a photo. If he holds hands for the photo, it is not going to materially change whether OpenAI outperforms Anthropic or vice versa, but what it shows is a certain level of maturity - Im mature enough to understand the situation here is…

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