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Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by wongarsu »

Reading through the list, I really wouldn't call most of them lies. There are some lies, but it's mostly 'very precisely worded statements' and statements that were arguably made in bad faith, but are not technically false. With some of them I am not even sure how their 'evidence' column is supposed to refute the quoted statement.

In my opinion being this broad is really hurting the message. They should concentrate on the actual lies, not dilute the list with "In 2024 Zuckerberg told congress that accounts of under-sixteens are private by default, but they only rolled that feature out in 2024, seven years after learning of the harms of not doing that. He lied!"

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by 1over137 »

mystraline wrote: post #9

And we *know* why, because of billionaire. But lying in Congress IS perjury. He should be in jail for contempt, and then then personally tried for perjury. Its a felony with punishment up to 5 years.

But we're talking about the USA here. Was such a thing ever done to someone of analogous stature in history?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by llm_nerd »

cies wrote: post #7

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No, he did not, and you're repeating some misinformation bit of nonsense that you find in anti-vax ignorance echo chambers.

When he first learned about mRNA vaccines he misunderstood them and was concerned about vaccines "basically modifying people's DNA and RNA to directly encode in a person's DNA and RNA basically the ability to produce those antibodies". This is technically ignorant to the point of being nonsensical, but to be fair he was a layman speculating based upon very limited knowledge about something he just learned about, and it was a casual discussion during the very early days.

And let's be fully clear for the antivaxxers among us: Every single plutocrat that pulls the levers that get you riled on your march to becoming Soylent Green got the vaccines. Every single power broker got the vaccines. The antivax nonsense is specifically the realm of the bottom-feeder easily conned contingent, manipulated into some bit of nonsense or other .

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by Aurornis »

> The only way to outlaw Meta’s dangerous and egregious behavior is to pass legislation, like the Kids Online Safety Act

Just last week there was uproar because Discord was going to require age verification to join adult themed servers and bypass content filters. This is how people are getting baited into inviting these restrictions and regulations into their services: By believing it’s necessary to hurt their enemies like Mark Zuckerberg combined with “think of the children”.

It’s still sad to these calls for extensive regulation and oversight getting upvoted so much on Hacker News.

Every time you see someone calling for regulation for kids online, remember that the only way to tell kids and adults apart is to force everyone to go through age verification. Before you start thinking that you don’t care because you don’t use social media, remember that you are reading this on a social media site. The laws aren’t going to care about whether or not you think Hacker News qualifies as social media.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by lelandfe »

wongarsu wrote: post #11

Reading through the list, I really wouldn't call most of them lies. There are some lies, but it's mostly 'very precisely worded statements' and statements that were arguably made in bad faith, but are not technically false. With some of them I am not even sure how their 'evidence' column is supposed to refute the quoted statement. In my opinion being this broad is really hurting the message. They should concentrate o…

This broad…side, perhaps?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by CrzyLngPwd »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #13

Remember when lying could get you in trouble? Lying has become normalized to such an extent that reality is unknowable. Just listen to any regime press conference on any day. Just pick any random day and listen. The hyperreal is here.

It's always been this way, though.

From tall tales of hunting or combat, the town crier spread propaganda from the lords to the public.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by raincole »

Aurornis wrote: post #15

> The only way to outlaw Meta’s dangerous and egregious behavior is to pass legislation, like the Kids Online Safety Act Just last week there was uproar because Discord was going to require age verification to join adult themed servers and bypass content filters. This is how people are getting baited into inviting these restrictions and regulations into their services: By believing it’s necessary to hurt their enemie…

I wonder if one day when people hear "censored internet" the first country that comes to mind will be a western one (probably the UK, but the US is not off the table either) instead of China.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by nephihaha »

raincole wrote: post #19
Aurornis wrote: post #15

> The only way to outlaw Meta’s dangerous and egregious behavior is to pass legislation, like the Kids Online Safety Act Just last week there was uproar because Discord was going to require age verification to join adult themed servers and bypass content filters. This is how people are getting baited into inviting these restrictions and regulations into their services: By believing it’s necessary to hurt their enemie…

I wonder if one day when people hear "censored internet" the first country that comes to mind will be a western one (probably the UK, but the US is not off the table either) instead of China.

It already does for me because I live here. Keir Starmer is desperately unpopular and yet he wants to suppress why people do hate him.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/09/27/starmer-leas...

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