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Wero – Digital payment wallet, made in Europe

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Re: Wero – Digital payment wallet, made in Europe

#11
I think it's important to note—which isn't mentioned on their website at all, stupidly enough—that wero has two parts. The p2p payment, that you can see in the parent article. And the e-commerce functionality, which is based on the dutch iDeal. See https://sowieso.wero-wallet.eu/nl-en/

Kinda odd that their marketing does nothing to clarify this...

Re: Wero – Digital payment wallet, made in Europe

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From what I've gathered, they've decided to make this completely unusable without a Google- or Apple-approved smartphone. Horrible! Are individual banks even allowed to make that an option for clients? Though even if they are, I doubt any will. I would LOVE a PayPal alternative, but this is just not it. -- From https://support.wero-wallet.eu/hc/en-us/articles/25599074240... : > It is not possible to use Wero via a we…

Ah, so this EU wallet is only usable after US companies bless my device? Outstanding move!

Re: Wero – Digital payment wallet, made in Europe

#18
Can anyone explain me exactly why it is a suitable alternative to VISA and Mastercard (and why people were waiting for it). I am trying to understand the full picture here, so multiple things come to my mind.

First, SEPA instant payments already exist and are really instant up to a certain amount, and I am guessing that Wero builds on top of that a sort of identity layer, to sidestep the whole IBAN thing. But it is likely more than a SEPA alias, since it was supposedly hard to set-up.

Second, VISA and Mastercard are worldwide payment networks (or rather, they each operate payment networks with various names?). But I am failing to grasp what's hard to reproduce here too. I heard that in Europe there were only a few national alternatives, like Carte Bancaire or Girocard, but why? Is it just because banks can't agree on the design of an alternate network? But all the fees associated with using VISA or Mastercard should be a big enough incentive to push something else. (basically what's a payment network?)

And lastly, why are all the new (free) digital banks (néobanques as we call them here) relying on either Mastercard or VISA and never on Carte Bancaire for example, while it generally offers lower processing fees (and that they can be cobranded).

I think I am missing a lot of context, and I asked LLMs a while ago about these but themselves don't really explain what is the infrastructure needed to operate such a network.

Re: Wero – Digital payment wallet, made in Europe

#19

Related: https://werotracker.eu/ Europe's $24T Breakup with Visa and Mastercard Has Begun - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46958399 - February 2026 (1020 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46963089 (Wero subthread)

That is what it's all about. Europe has realised it is dependent on potentially hostile U.S owned payment infrastructure.

Re: Wero – Digital payment wallet, made in Europe

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post #15
post #7

From what I've gathered, they've decided to make this completely unusable without a Google- or Apple-approved smartphone. Horrible! Are individual banks even allowed to make that an option for clients? Though even if they are, I doubt any will. I would LOVE a PayPal alternative, but this is just not it. -- From https://support.wero-wallet.eu/hc/en-us/articles/25599074240... : > It is not possible to use Wero via a we…

Ah, so this EU wallet is only usable after US companies bless my device? Outstanding move!

I think this is more about fees than sovereignty.
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