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"I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by lenerdenator »

quacked wrote: post #4

The two American political parties are so perfectly shielded by their own ideological blinders to avoid any possibility of national protectionism against offshoring and outsourcing that I don't think there will ever be any kind of movement against this. The conservative base is unfriendly to foreigners and foreign cultures, and claims to prefer American-made goods and services, but will immediately guillotine any int…

> The conservative base is unfriendly to foreigners and foreign cultures, and claims to prefer American-made goods and services, but will immediately guillotine any internal party member who causes consumer prices to raise substantially--which they would have to do in order to support American workers creating products rather than our offshored counterparts.

Currently, the head of the party is raising and lowering tariffs at will, so I don't quite think this holds anymore.

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Post by quacked »

epolanski wrote: post #6
quacked wrote: post #4

The two American political parties are so perfectly shielded by their own ideological blinders to avoid any possibility of national protectionism against offshoring and outsourcing that I don't think there will ever be any kind of movement against this. The conservative base is unfriendly to foreigners and foreign cultures, and claims to prefer American-made goods and services, but will immediately guillotine any int…

I really find the state of American (but not only) politics dreadful where everything is seen under the lenses of conservatives vs liberals. Most people I know, everywhere in the world have mixed views on most topics. Let alone the fact that ideologies tend to change, modern rights are way more populist and economically-socialist than they were 2 decades ago. See Poland, Hungary, Italy, etc, where governments make mo…

I agree, but the fact of the matter is that for voting purposes there are two "teams" in the US, and they vote and argue in public down pretty well-defined ideological lines. If you know the two or three most strongly-held moral-political beliefs of an American, it's highly likely that you can guess another 150 sociopolitical beliefs they at least profess to hold to their friends.

Re: "I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by OutOfHere »

Between AI and outsourcing, desk jobs in the US can risk disappearing altogether. Do not count on them, and do not expect you to be owed anything. Go in every day knowing that day can be your last day there, and you will be at peace. Find your own alternate paths.

Re: "I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by jen20 »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #9
epolanski wrote: post #5

That's how capitalism works, eventually everything gets moved where it's more efficient. Obviously, time and time again has proven that outsourcing is not always more efficient.

So then that's not how capitalism works, is it?

It is, if you add the word "perceived" to the original post.

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Post by OutOfHere »

throwaway920102 wrote: post #13

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There is racism all around in America -- every race effectively has some bias to hire its own. To some limited extent they don't.

The way I think about it is that if they don't want to hire me, it means I am not offering them enough value to bypass any bias.

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Post by lanstin »

If this was about a useful part of the economy rather than financialized credit access, I would care. Paying 10x to US residents to provide a better Amex experience really doesn’t incentivize anything that is long term useful. Now when materials scientists and skilled scientific technicians are fired from US based jobs, well that is a problem. The economy in the US has fallen prey to the demands of irreality based capital which is seeking, not profit, not good products and healthy trade, but seeking to extract capital and to erect legislative barriers to Adam Smith style competition (between innovative small businesses striving to find an innovative way to push product utility up a bit). If you can’t brag about the good your job is doing for people, life, or history, try again.

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Post by functionmouse »

epolanski wrote: post #6
quacked wrote: post #4

The two American political parties are so perfectly shielded by their own ideological blinders to avoid any possibility of national protectionism against offshoring and outsourcing that I don't think there will ever be any kind of movement against this. The conservative base is unfriendly to foreigners and foreign cultures, and claims to prefer American-made goods and services, but will immediately guillotine any int…

I really find the state of American (but not only) politics dreadful where everything is seen under the lenses of conservatives vs liberals. Most people I know, everywhere in the world have mixed views on most topics. Let alone the fact that ideologies tend to change, modern rights are way more populist and economically-socialist than they were 2 decades ago. See Poland, Hungary, Italy, etc, where governments make mo…

You must understand, we're only allowed to vote for good cop or bad cop over here.

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Post by stronglikedan »

quacked wrote: post #4

The two American political parties are so perfectly shielded by their own ideological blinders to avoid any possibility of national protectionism against offshoring and outsourcing that I don't think there will ever be any kind of movement against this. The conservative base is unfriendly to foreigners and foreign cultures, and claims to prefer American-made goods and services, but will immediately guillotine any int…

In my opinion, it's because the two party divide has reached the point of extremism on both sides, and extremists act on emotion rather than logic or reason. Up until a couple of decades ago, they both did a good job of keeping their more extreme members out of sight and mind. Now they're embracing and amplifying them.
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