This is an Anthropic fumble and Clawdbot could have been theirs a long time ago instead of going to OpenAI who cleverly outdone them on marketing this fumble. Anthropic just made themselves look incredibly bad with the way they handled that when they sent a cease and desist to OpenClaw which that back-fired right in their faces. Mistakes have been made.
OpenClaw (ClawdBot) joins OpenAI
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#12What value is it actually producing? It feels like its a bunch of meme projects.
I get that in theory, it has full chat and desktop access, which could be useful, but seems like nothing useful has been created yet.
Re: OpenClaw (ClawdBot) joins OpenAI
#13This is an Anthropic fumble and Clawdbot could have been theirs a long time ago instead of going to OpenAI who cleverly outdone them on marketing this fumble. Anthropic just made themselves look incredibly bad with the way they handled that when they sent a cease and desist to OpenClaw which that back-fired right in their faces. Mistakes have been made.
Re: OpenClaw (ClawdBot) joins OpenAI
#14This is an Anthropic fumble and Clawdbot could have been theirs a long time ago instead of going to OpenAI who cleverly outdone them on marketing this fumble. Anthropic just made themselves look incredibly bad with the way they handled that when they sent a cease and desist to OpenClaw which that back-fired right in their faces. Mistakes have been made.
I thought Pete mentioned on lex's podcast that anthropic did not send a cease and desist. They kindly asked him to remove all references .to Clawd from the project
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#16Feel like I've missed the boat here on OpenClaw. What value is it actually producing? It feels like its a bunch of meme projects. I get that in theory, it has full chat and desktop access, which could be useful, but seems like nothing useful has been created yet.
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#17Amazing how bad Anthropic can miss the boat on this
This is just a marketing move by OpenAI.
Re: OpenClaw (ClawdBot) joins OpenAI
#18This is an Anthropic fumble and Clawdbot could have been theirs a long time ago instead of going to OpenAI who cleverly outdone them on marketing this fumble. Anthropic just made themselves look incredibly bad with the way they handled that when they sent a cease and desist to OpenClaw which that back-fired right in their faces. Mistakes have been made.
Exactly the same as the OpenCode drama, at this point OpenAI are just getting free customers from common sense. Anthropic seem oddly focused on their moat being the app, rather than the underlying intelligence and model. Which is odd when Claude Claude is no better than all the other harnesses.
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#19Feel like I've missed the boat here on OpenClaw. What value is it actually producing? It feels like its a bunch of meme projects. I get that in theory, it has full chat and desktop access, which could be useful, but seems like nothing useful has been created yet.
I think HN being mostly quite technical under estimate the latent demand for ad-hoc business automation by people who know what they want to happen but aren't comfortable writing code.
You could look at it as a generic replacement for many types of AI SaaS harness. Previously if you wanted to reduce the workload of an office worker say reading work orders (that arrive in 50 different formats via email, sometimes as pdfs or behind portal links) and entering them into job control, you would need to write a custom agent harness or use a SaaS. Now you can sort of "mold" this thing like clay and get it to do the job. Instead of writing an API integration for the job control system you can just give it the openapi spec. Instead of writing your business logic in code, you can describe it in English. If you are technical, you can work with it to turn parts of the workflow into code to reduce token spend or make them more deterministic.
Naturally, it has all the disadvantages of home built automation (typically limited reproducibility, less secure, not generalised).
There's a lot of jank and risk but, hiring people can be pretty hit and miss in that regard also so for small businesses it's not as "out of distribution" as you might think.
Corporate is a different story.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly the same as the OpenCode drama, at this point OpenAI are just getting free customers from common sense. Anthropic seem oddly focused on their moat being the app, rather than the underlying intelligence and model. Which is odd when Claude Claude is no better than all the other harnesses.
I have a suspicion that the reason they’re using react, and the reason they’re trying to keep people using Claude code instead of other tools is because it gives them additional data to train on.