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65 Lines of Markdown, a Claude Code Sensation

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Re: 65 Lines of Markdown, a Claude Code Sensation

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> But the original repository has almost 4,000 stars, and surely, 4,000 developers can’t be wrong? This is such a negative messaging! Let's check star history: https://www.star-history.com/#forrestchang/andrej-karpathy-s... 1. Between Jan 27th and Feb 3rd stars grew quickly to 3K, project was released at that time. 2. People star it to be on top of NEW changes, people wanted to learn more about what's coming - but it…

I just packaged the extension for the fun of it! And I do want people to try for themselves, that is the point. About people that are not dumb; surely many people are not dumb; many people are very smart indeed. But that does not prove there are no dumb or gullible people!

thanks for responding and sharing your perspective.

What I would say, you could have omitted some negativity or judgement from your post about 4k devs starring something because it looks simple, because they might have different intentions for starring.

Here is another great example of 65K "not wrong" developers: https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode - there is no code, long before AI was a trend, released 9 years ago, but got 65K stars! Doesn't mean devs "not wrong", it means people are curious and saving things "just in case" to showcase somewhere

Re: 65 Lines of Markdown, a Claude Code Sensation

#14
post #4

LLMs are the eternal September for software, in that the sort of people who couldn’t make it through a bootcamp can now be “programming thought leaders”. There’s no longer a reliable way to filter signal from noise. Those 3000 early adopters who are bookmarking a trivial markdown file largely overlap with the sort of people who breathlessly announce that “the last six months of model development have changed everythi…

Sometimes I just bookmark things because I think to myself “Maybe I’ll try this out, when I have time” which then likely never happens.

So I wouldn’t give anything on 3k stars at all.

Re: 65 Lines of Markdown, a Claude Code Sensation

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post #2

With AI, it feels like deterministic outcomes are not valued as experience taught us it should. The absence of means to measure outcomes of these prompt documents makes me feel like the profession is regressing further into cargo culting.

That is because nothing in the world is deterministic, they are just all varying degrees of probability.

Re: 65 Lines of Markdown, a Claude Code Sensation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just packaged the extension for the fun of it! And I do want people to try for themselves, that is the point. About people that are not dumb; surely many people are not dumb; many people are very smart indeed. But that does not prove there are no dumb or gullible people!

thanks for responding and sharing your perspective. What I would say, you could have omitted some negativity or judgement from your post about 4k devs starring something because it looks simple, because they might have different intentions for starring. Here is another great example of 65K "not wrong" developers: https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode - there is no code, long before AI was a trend, released 9 year…

Nocode is obviously a banter repo and people starred it because made them laugh.

Re: 65 Lines of Markdown, a Claude Code Sensation

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post #2

With AI, it feels like deterministic outcomes are not valued as experience taught us it should. The absence of means to measure outcomes of these prompt documents makes me feel like the profession is regressing further into cargo culting.

That is because nothing in the world is deterministic, they are just all varying degrees of probability.

This rings hollow to me.

When my code compiles in the evening, it also compiles the next morning. When my code stops compiling, usually I can track the issue in the way my build changed.

Sure, my laptop may die while I'm working and so the second compilation may not end because of that, but that's not really comparable to a LLM giving me three different answers when given the same prompt three times. Saying that nothing is deterministic buries the distinction between these two behaviours.

Deterministic tools is something the developper community has worked very hard for in the past, and it's sad to see a new tool giving none of it.

Re: 65 Lines of Markdown, a Claude Code Sensation

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post #4

LLMs are the eternal September for software, in that the sort of people who couldn’t make it through a bootcamp can now be “programming thought leaders”. There’s no longer a reliable way to filter signal from noise. Those 3000 early adopters who are bookmarking a trivial markdown file largely overlap with the sort of people who breathlessly announce that “the last six months of model development have changed everythi…

Sometimes I just bookmark things because I think to myself “Maybe I’ll try this out, when I have time” which then likely never happens. So I wouldn’t give anything on 3k stars at all.

> Sometimes I just bookmark things because I think to myself “Maybe I’ll try this out, when I have time” which then likely never happens.

For me that’s 100% of the time. I only bookmark or star things I don’t use (but could be interesting). The things I do use, I just remember. If they used to be a bookmark or star, I remove it at that point.

Re: 65 Lines of Markdown, a Claude Code Sensation

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> But the original repository has almost 4,000 stars, and surely, 4,000 developers can’t be wrong? This is such a negative messaging! Let's check star history: https://www.star-history.com/#forrestchang/andrej-karpathy-s... 1. Between Jan 27th and Feb 3rd stars grew quickly to 3K, project was released at that time. 2. People star it to be on top of NEW changes, people wanted to learn more about what's coming - but it…

I just packaged the extension for the fun of it! And I do want people to try for themselves, that is the point. About people that are not dumb; surely many people are not dumb; many people are very smart indeed. But that does not prove there are no dumb or gullible people!

I wonder if someone could explore creating a standalone product out of that markdown, just for the fun of it.
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