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America's $1T AI Gamble

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Re: America's $1T AI Gamble

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AI plans are not going to stay at $20/mo. People will go to alternative models, but it likely will be as popular as Linux.

I don't know about you, but I benefit so much from using Claude at work that I would gladly pay $1,500-$2,000 per month to keep using it.

That is more than one month rent for most of the world. Most people are simply not going to pay this.

Re: America's $1T AI Gamble

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post #8

AI plans are not going to stay at $20/mo. People will go to alternative models, but it likely will be as popular as Linux.

I don't know about you, but I benefit so much from using Claude at work that I would gladly pay $1,500-$2,000 per month to keep using it.

At that cost I'd just buy some GPUs and run a local model though. Maybe a couple RTX 6000s.

Re: America's $1T AI Gamble

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about you, but I benefit so much from using Claude at work that I would gladly pay $1,500-$2,000 per month to keep using it.

That is more than one month rent for most of the world. Most people are simply not going to pay this.

Well then I'm sorry but unfortunately they are going to be left behind.

People who are cut out to be software developers can afford the means of production.

Re: America's $1T AI Gamble

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is more than one month rent for most of the world. Most people are simply not going to pay this.

Well then I'm sorry but unfortunately they are going to be left behind. People who are cut out to be software developers can afford the means of production.

Pretty edgy response. I'd say trying to scale in price rather than in quantity is a bad business strategy for tech period, specially if you hope to become Google-sized like OpenAI and company want.

Re: America's $1T AI Gamble

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post #2

And this gamble is paid for by American taxpayers, increased cost of utilities, and multibillion dollar corporations receiving tax breaks/subsidies from the cities/counties they build in. This country is so awful. Great if you are rich. Awful if you are not in this top 0.01-1%. A massive $79T has been transferred from bottom 90% to top 1% since the 1970s. [1] [1] https://www.rand.org/pubs/working_papers/WRA516-2.html

I love how they say with a straight face that when AI takes over they will finally share all the fruits of capital with us.

The French had a tool for this problem.

Re: America's $1T AI Gamble

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And this gamble is paid for by American taxpayers, increased cost of utilities, and multibillion dollar corporations receiving tax breaks/subsidies from the cities/counties they build in. This country is so awful. Great if you are rich. Awful if you are not in this top 0.01-1%. A massive $79T has been transferred from bottom 90% to top 1% since the 1970s. [1] [1] https://www.rand.org/pubs/working_papers/WRA516-2.html

Not to mention all the land being gobbled up to build these data centers.

Of all the externalities under discussion, I think land use is a very minor one.

Re: America's $1T AI Gamble

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is more than one month rent for most of the world. Most people are simply not going to pay this.

Well then I'm sorry but unfortunately they are going to be left behind. People who are cut out to be software developers can afford the means of production.

Sure they can also code without the help of a model, probably not that much slower.

Re: America's $1T AI Gamble

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is more than one month rent for most of the world. Most people are simply not going to pay this.

Well then I'm sorry but unfortunately they are going to be left behind. People who are cut out to be software developers can afford the means of production.

A $2k/month model, should it ever arise, won't need you.

Re: America's $1T AI Gamble

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is more than one month rent for most of the world. Most people are simply not going to pay this.

Well then I'm sorry but unfortunately they are going to be left behind. People who are cut out to be software developers can afford the means of production.

Big yikes bro.

Re: America's $1T AI Gamble

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about you, but I benefit so much from using Claude at work that I would gladly pay $1,500-$2,000 per month to keep using it.

At that cost I'd just buy some GPUs and run a local model though. Maybe a couple RTX 6000s.

Those won’t be sufficient to run SOTA/trillion parameter models
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