Any age verification process that does not consider the age of the account as a verification option is a data trap, plain and simple.
Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month
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#12So my friend group has been looking for alternatives for a while now that feel like discord, works on mobile and desktop, and has voice chat.
I use Signal but the UI is very different from Discord.
I've had very mixed experiences with Element + Matrix, Element keeps crashing on mobile, and while voice chat kinda exists in Element it's not been great imho.
I looked into hosting Rocket.chat, Zullip, and Mattermost but from what I recall voice + mobile were either missing or paywalled at a per-user price.
Any recommendations?
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#13“We will find ways to bring people back” yeah because that usually works. I imagine this gets rolled back or siloed to only adult specific channels.
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#14Any age verification process that does not consider the age of the account as a verification option is a data trap, plain and simple.
How does anyone know whether a family is engaging in that time-honored tradition of passing down accounts from grandfather, to father, to son, to child, and their posterity, in perpetuity?
Seriously though, unless you have positively identified the person who created the account in the first place, you have 0% chance of knowing whether it is the same person using it today.
Gamers sell their high-level accounts all the time. It would be a simple matter of economics that the Discord users with the oldest accounts sell them to 12-year-olds. Likewise, accounts are shared willy-nilly, whether or not that violates the rules. And accounts can be stolen or compromised, if you're really hard up.
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#15> and will see content filters for any content Discord detects as graphic or sensitive.
I didn't even realise discord scans all the images that i send and recieve.
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#16How many people are doing age restricted stuff on Discord (besides the specifically there for adult content and gooning crowd) All of my use is primarily professional and gaming and has no age concerns
Gaming certainly has age-concerns, many games are rated 13/15/16+ or 18+
But yeah, leaving discord... they are not getting my ID/Photo
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#17> and will see content filters for any content Discord detects as graphic or sensitive. I didn't even realise discord scans all the images that i send and recieve.
Pretty much every non-E2EE platform is scanning every uploaded image for CSAM at least, that's a baseline ass-covering measure.
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#18> and will see content filters for any content Discord detects as graphic or sensitive. I didn't even realise discord scans all the images that i send and recieve.
They have to at least for CSAM.
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#19> Users who aren’t verified as adults will not be able to access age-restricted servers and channels
I genuinely wonder which proportion of the users want access to age-restricted servers and channels...
Feels like it should be just fine not to verify the age.
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#20What realistic open source alternatives to Discord are there? I'm currently considering moving to one of these with my friend group:
- Matrix
- Stoat, previously revolt (https://stoat.chat/)
- IRC + Mumble
- Signal