The real insight buried in here is "build what programmers love and everyone will follow." If every user has an agent that can write code against your product, your API docs become your actual product. That's a massive shift.
Eight more months of agents
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#12I don't trust the idea of "not getting", "not understanding", or "being out of touch" with anti-LLM (or pro-LLM) sentiment. There is nothing complicated about this divide. The pros and cons are both as plain as anything has ever been. You can disagree - even strongly - with either side. You can't "not understand".
> There is nothing complicated about this divide [...] You can't "not understand"
I beg to differ. There are a whole lot of folks with astonishingly incomplete understanding about all the facts here who are going to continue to make things very, very complicated. Disagreement is meaningless when the relevant parties are not working from the same assumption of basic knowledge.
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#13 But if you try some penny-saving cheap model like Sonnet [..bad things..]. [Better] pay through the nose for Opus.
Opus in Cursor is just so much more responsive and easy to talk to, compared to Opus in Claude.
Cursor has this "Auto" mode which feels like it has very liberal limits (amortized cost I guess) that I'm also trying to use more, but -- I don't really like to flip a coin and if it lands up head then waste half hour discovering the LLM made a mess the LLM and try again forcing the model.
Perhaps in March I'll bite the bullet and take this authors advice.
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#14> Using anything other than the frontier models is actively harmful If that is true, why should one invest in learning now rather than waiting for 8 months to learn whatever is the frontier model then?
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#15> Using anything other than the frontier models is actively harmful If that is true, why should one invest in learning now rather than waiting for 8 months to learn whatever is the frontier model then?
Because you might want to use LLMs now. If not, it's definitely better to not chase the hype - ignore the whole shebang.
But if you do want to use LLMs for coding now, not using the best models just doesn't make sense.
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#16Curious what you mean by "agent harness" here... are you distinguishing between true autonomous agents (model decides next step) vs workflows that use LLMs at specific nodes? I've found the latter dramatically more reliable for anything beyond prototyping, which makes me wonder if the "model improvement" is partly better prompting and scaffolding.
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#17> Using anything other than the frontier models is actively harmful If that is true, why should one invest in learning now rather than waiting for 8 months to learn whatever is the frontier model then?
So that you can be using the current frontier model for the next 8 months instead of twiddling your thumbs waiting for the next one to come out?
I think you (and others) might be misunderstanding his statement a bit. He's not saying that using an old model is harmful in the sense that it outputs bad code -- he's saying it's harmful because some of the lessons you learn will be out of date and not apply to the latest models.
So yes, if you use current frontier models, you'll need to recalibrate and unlearn a few things when the next generation comes out. But in the meantime, you will have gotten 8 months (or however long it takes) of value out of the current generation.
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#18> In 2000, less than one percent lived on farms and 1% of workers are in agriculture. That was a net benefit to the world, that we all don't have to work to eat.
The jury's still out on that one, because climate change is an existential risk.
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#19> In 2000, less than one percent lived on farms and 1% of workers are in agriculture. That was a net benefit to the world, that we all don't have to work to eat. The jury's still out on that one, because climate change is an existential risk.
Existential? Maybe to beachfront property owners
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#20> It sounds like someone saying power tools should be outlawed in carpentry. I see this a lot here
if that someone is clumsy, had an active war going on against basic tools before, and wandered into the carpentry from completely different area, then power tools might be a bad idea.