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Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by zamalek »

This is OSINT (open-source intelligence) and isn't spying by any technical standard because it's speech in a public venue, there isn't a way to raise hell like with e.g. Snowden. Spying would be going into their DMs without a warrant (which is probably happening).

> Reddit post about “spreading awareness” as though it were the secret messages of al Qaeda

Extreme waste of tax dollars, though. I guess this is an important lesson in Big Brother and "having nothing to hide." They will put something worth hiding in your hands and swiftly arrest you.

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by SanjayMehta »

mindslight wrote: post #8

One of the mistaken beliefs of contemporary neofascists is that Pournelle's Iron Law only applies to bureaucracies. It would be much much less work for ICE to stop executing American citizens, stop abducting citizens and lawful immigrants, and stop keeping deportees in overcrowded and opaque concentration camps, and repair their own reputation by generally operating within the law like good faith public servants. But…

And stay within your own borders.

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by Shadow_Death »

LOL Nobody should be shocked. I forgot who said it but someone said something to the tune of they don't need to wire tap because people openly post all over social media for everyone to see.

People see it as a way to share information with friends and family, meanwhile governments use it as a survaylance tool, always have been.

Tin foil hat time: DARPA wanted to create LifeLog to track everything about you. Now you post everything they wanted to know about you on Facebook.

/Rant

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by pluralmonad »

adamsb6 wrote: post #10

I wouldn't consider consuming public Reddit posts "spying." The OSINT folks aren't technically spying but they're a lot closer to it than this.

Why not? I definitely consider cameras recording our every move in public to be spying/surveillance. It is one thing for a person to see something in public. Quite another to have automated systems recording and analyzing everything for all time.

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Post by flowerbreeze »

adamsb6 wrote: post #10

I wouldn't consider consuming public Reddit posts "spying." The OSINT folks aren't technically spying but they're a lot closer to it than this.

Even if it's not spying, I think it is stalking to follow and aggregate information about people's activities in public spaces over time.

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by breppp »

A bit of an alarmist title. They would be negligent if they didn't.

Hopefully they are able to anticipate protests and handle these without getting anyone shot. A good part of this is intelligence, and reading reddit is not a very invasive type of intelligence.

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Post by OutOfHere »

breppp wrote: post #18

A bit of an alarmist title. They would be negligent if they didn't. Hopefully they are able to anticipate protests and handle these without getting anyone shot. A good part of this is intelligence, and reading reddit is not a very invasive type of intelligence.

Huh. Why do they need to anticipate protests? Why can't they simply respect the right of the people to assemble and complain? The only thing that's alarmist is all of the actions performed by ICE.

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Post by OutOfHere »

mindslight wrote: post #8

One of the mistaken beliefs of contemporary neofascists is that Pournelle's Iron Law only applies to bureaucracies. It would be much much less work for ICE to stop executing American citizens, stop abducting citizens and lawful immigrants, and stop keeping deportees in overcrowded and opaque concentration camps, and repair their own reputation by generally operating within the law like good faith public servants. But…

The best way to stop them is to cut off their money.
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