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Europe is already hotter than expected.
AMOC collapse in a heating world wouldn't mean much. It seems to me that whatever cooling from it will be offset by global warming.
AMOC could be a generally bad thing for biodiversity or crops, but it's not going to stop global warming.
Is this real? https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/research-frontiers/how-a-swiss-... Says it’s not. Seems like this kind of disaster engagement bait that’s super popular now
This scary, yet almost nothing on the news. We're living in a fake world and pretending everything is fine. Adam Curtis made a movie HyperNormalisation and we're living it also today. Adam Curtis: “HyperNormalisation” is a word that was coined by a brilliant Russian historian who was writing about what it was like to live in the last years of the Soviet Union. What he said, which I thought was absolutely fascinating,…
You think they'd care for something as remote as the AMOC collapse?
This scary, yet almost nothing on the news. We're living in a fake world and pretending everything is fine. Adam Curtis made a movie HyperNormalisation and we're living it also today. Adam Curtis: “HyperNormalisation” is a word that was coined by a brilliant Russian historian who was writing about what it was like to live in the last years of the Soviet Union. What he said, which I thought was absolutely fascinating,…
Worst case scenario seems to be that people will stop migrating to Europe.
Is this real? https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/research-frontiers/how-a-swiss-... Says it’s not. Seems like this kind of disaster engagement bait that’s super popular now
>The AMOC will decline substantially, that’s virtually certain and the consequences will be extremely grave. All serious experts (including the nature study you linked a popsci article about) agree this is a problem that will have a devastating impact on humanity in the future. We're just quibbling about how devastating and how soon.
AMOC makes Europe hotter than expected, and US east coast colder. Europe is already hotter than expected. AMOC collapse in a heating world wouldn't mean much. It seems to me that whatever cooling from it will be offset by global warming. AMOC could be a generally bad thing for biodiversity or crops, but it's not going to stop global warming.
"Climate disaster affecting a mechanism Europe depended for millenia to keep warm? No biggie, we are already have another climate disaster making Europe hotter, they'll just cancel each other out"
Not just second and third order effects, many can't even understand first level effects.
Is this real? https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/research-frontiers/how-a-swiss-... Says it’s not. Seems like this kind of disaster engagement bait that’s super popular now
„Under high-emission scenarios, the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), a key system of ocean currents that also includes the Gulf Stream, could shut down after the year 2100.“
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If you read the article and that's the overall conclusion you came away with I'm not sure we read the same article. They're just pointing out that timing is uncertain, but the majority of diverse models show AMOC failure within a few generations and nearly all of them do if we extrapolate continued CO2 release growth.
I hate endless catastrophism in the headlines. Article contents doesn't reflect the alarmist statement in the header.
"Don't be alarmist, it's just the curtains that are on fire. Besides, there's a good chance it might rain".
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I hate endless catastrophism in the headlines. Article contents doesn't reflect the alarmist statement in the header.
"The house will burn down" "Don't be alarmist, it's just the curtains that are on fire. Besides, there's a good chance it might rain".
“Our paper says that the Atlantic overturning has not declined yet. That doesn’t say anything about its future, but it doesn’t appear the anticipated changes have occurred yet.”
The study is a stark contrast to a 2018 study that said the AMOC had declined over the last 70 years."
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“Our results imply that, rather than a substantial decline, the AMOC is more likely to experience a limited decline over the 21st century—still some weakening, but less drastic than previous projections suggest.”
Am I the only person here who actually read it?