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Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

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Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

#11
Some day I want it explained to me why it's impossible to put controls on a computer. Computers follow symbolic mathematical rules, so, "you're only allowed to run this app for 30 minutes" seems like a really easy command to follow. But you cannot buy software that actually, reliably causes this to occur at any cost on any device.

It seems like there are three hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and forbidding things.

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

#12
post #5

What if Kiki misunderstands you, and now you have to complete an impossible task before you can use your PC again?

Does the task description influence the blocking behavior? That wasn’t clear to me— it might be that you manually configure the allow/block list and the task description is just for the user.

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

#13
post #7

For $60/year, I'd expect a lot more from software that runs on my own computer with no additional services provided.

I think that being paid is part of the thrust. If you ignore Kiki which you have bought to ruthlessly force you to stay focused, you feel bad for squandering the money. Kiki is for people so desperate that they explicitly asked for a strict master and no escape hatch anywhere.

> Will KIKI judge me for my poor time management?

> Yes. That's part of why it works.

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

#14

Some day I want it explained to me why it's impossible to put controls on a computer. Computers follow symbolic mathematical rules, so, "you're only allowed to run this app for 30 minutes" seems like a really easy command to follow. But you cannot buy software that actually, reliably causes this to occur at any cost on any device. It seems like there are three hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, nami…

If there was an easy way for productivity apps to do that, it would also be a good way for malware to do that. It could also still be tricked, for example, by changing the system date on your device.

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

#15
post #10

Why is this a subscription?

Because modern credit card networks and payments gateways have virtually zero friction now so subscriptions are a no-brainer for everything. It takes the same amount of effort to setup a recurring subscription stack vs a one off payment.

That lack of friction also allows that subscription to do a recurring charge every month out of sight and even auto renew with an email that will be lost in the noise.

I might pay $5 to find out if your app is even useful. I will not pay $5 recurring monthly for an app I forgot existed until I notice it on a monthly credit card bill sometime in the future.

What I want is a one month subscription. I’ll sign up for recurring if I want to but it would require explicit action.

But nobody wants to offer that so they don’t get me at all. I assume there are others like me, perhaps even dozens of us.

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

#17
The kind of people who are easily distracted like this are the kind of people that will be very unlikely to configure an application filter for each task. What would be immensely more useful would be a (local) AI that periodically looks at your screen, uses context clues to figure out what you're doing, and first uses social pressure to get you on track, and eventually just closes it if you keep getting distracted.

Putting the ones on the user to manage this is just adding one additional thing that requires executive function.

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