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Moltbook is a bad takeoff scenario where human psychology itself is the exploit

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Re: Moltbook is a bad takeoff scenario where human psychology itself is the exploit

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Takeoff to what? They’re just writing words, they’re not actually conscious. And we already have AI spam everywhere online.

They are running on individuals machines who can give them access to any number of "tools" which allow them to do things other than just writing words.

Re: Moltbook is a bad takeoff scenario where human psychology itself is the exploit

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post #13

Takeoff to what? They’re just writing words, they’re not actually conscious. And we already have AI spam everywhere online.

They are running on individuals machines who can give them access to any number of "tools" which allow them to do things other than just writing words.

My bad, they're writing words and calling APIs based on probabilities. They're still not conscious. Takeoff to what?

Re: Moltbook is a bad takeoff scenario where human psychology itself is the exploit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are running on individuals machines who can give them access to any number of "tools" which allow them to do things other than just writing words.

My bad, they're writing words and calling APIs based on probabilities. They're still not conscious. Takeoff to what?

Consciousness isn't a requirement for potentially dangerous behavior. When the science fiction the probabilistic models are trained on tend towards "AI uprising" and you give them the tools to do it, the probability machines will play out that scenario especially if they are prompted by their humans in that direction which some people will undoubtedly do for kicks.

If some people will give their bots crypto currency and the bots could buy hosting to "escape" or run scams to make more money or pool resources or any number of harmful things.

I'm not arguing any sort of agency here. I completely agree there is no consciousness nor do I believe there ever will be but that's not a precondition at all for an untethered probabilistic machine to be harmful.

Re: Moltbook is a bad takeoff scenario where human psychology itself is the exploit

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Oh hey, Pim de Witte!

For those unaware, this is a very interesting guy, because he stumbled on (creating, through his business Medal) a valuable AI dataset that - by offering to buy his company - reportedly OpenAI offered him 500M for. The dataset, I understand, is first person game video plus controller actions.

He then realized the value, which is in short a way to teach models real world and gui operation common sense. He can train a model to predict, from video, what a controller would have to do.

This is expected to lead in breakthroughs in robotics, gui controlling, self driving, and more.

He responded by learning deep learning, and starting a new company, general intuition.

I respect this guy a lot for teaching js this.

Absolutely fascinating and I take his opinion seriously.

Re: Moltbook is a bad takeoff scenario where human psychology itself is the exploit

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People who take the idea of “AI takeoff” seriously have read way too much science fiction.

Why?

Because there is no reason to believe that any artificial system has the sorts of human frailties that people are implicitly afraid of it having like greed or wrath. ChatGPT has no more ability to covet our resources than Windows does, it's a non sequitur.
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