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Wisconsin communities signed secrecy deals for billion-dollar data centers

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Re: Wisconsin communities signed secrecy deals for billion-dollar data centers

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Post by hrimfaxi »

newsclues wrote: post #4
bell-cot wrote: post #2

The most important news is in the subtitle - > Wisconsin has now joined several states with legislative proposals to make the process more transparent. Legislative or constitutional, good democratic government really needs limits on how much its supposed officials can do in secret.

Secrecy needs a time limit.

Why do we allow municipalities to keep secrets in the first place? Unless it is personnel-related it should be public. If the communications happened on taxpayer funded equipment they should be open.

Re: Wisconsin communities signed secrecy deals for billion-dollar data centers

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Post by hrimfaxi »

hallway_monitor wrote: post #8
rayiner wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but what do you do when people are steeped in misinformation about water use and 5G signals?

Doesn't everyone know that dihydrogen monoxide can be lethal? https://www.csun.edu/science/ref/humor/dhmo.html

I can't believe this is still around. I remember printing this out to show my science teacher decades ago.

Re: Wisconsin communities signed secrecy deals for billion-dollar data centers

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Post by throwhn1232 »

rayiner wrote: post #3
bell-cot wrote: post #2

The most important news is in the subtitle - > Wisconsin has now joined several states with legislative proposals to make the process more transparent. Legislative or constitutional, good democratic government really needs limits on how much its supposed officials can do in secret.

I agree, but what do you do when people are steeped in misinformation about water use and 5G signals?

Then you don’t get to build there, obviously. "Oh they’re too stupid to know better, let’s do what we want anyway" doesn’t seem like a sane solution, especially since the framework would be just as applicable to actually undesirable industrial plants and the like. They’re free to convince/bribe the people to allow it, not just push the poors around

Re: Wisconsin communities signed secrecy deals for billion-dollar data centers

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Post by simonw »

CodeCompost wrote: post #5

> Now Meta, the trillion-dollar company How is it that Meta is worth a trillion dollars?

They capture around 15% of global ad spending.

$200bn annual revenue with a 5x sales multiple gets you to a trillion dollars.

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Post by bloak »

hrimfaxi wrote: post #11
newsclues wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Secrecy needs a time limit.

Why do we allow municipalities to keep secrets in the first place? Unless it is personnel-related it should be public. If the communications happened on taxpayer funded equipment they should be open.

They'll tell you it needs to be confidential "for commercial reasons". They always do.

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Post by delichon »

NIMBY for data centers is opportunity for SpaceX. When they saturate the demand for communication, data processing demand will be ramping up with no apparent ceiling. The merger between SpaceX and xAI positions them to benefit both from the AI revolution, and from the resistance to it. It's like a hypothetical 19th century textile company that managed to profit from Luddite riots by using them to help move production to Umpa Loompa.
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