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US administration to require app, social media, possibly DNA for travelers

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Re: US administration to require app, social media, possibly DNA for travelers

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Post by fkdk »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #3

I would love to visit the US one day and i do understand that it has no obligation to just let me in, but this seems a bit excessive for a short visit especially seeing as my country has a deal with the US not to require visas. I wonder if i would have to disclose my hn account(s). My cover would be blown! I guess i'm lucky i've made pro Trump comments...

> im lucky i've made pro Trump comments

Once implemented, such regulation will stay even if trump leaves. When the democrats take over again, this will be used against you.

Re: US administration to require app, social media, possibly DNA for travelers

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Post by jerlam »

lovich wrote: post #8

Ah, more laws and regulations that cannot be followed by most people. I couldn’t tell you every single “social media” account I’ve made over the years as various startups failed after I tried them. I definitely couldn’t get all my family’s information, even if constrained to just immediate family. I bet Palantir and three letter agencies have that information though, so this will be another lever they can use to sele…

So if the agencies already have this information, then you are not actually giving them any information. This is a test to see if you are compliant.

Also, given how much inaccurate information is on the internet, including AI hallucinations and people with similar names, there is a chance that they have wrong information about you. And since you can't correct them, or tell them about this false information that you don't know about, so you are basically banned from ever visiting.

Re: US administration to require app, social media, possibly DNA for travelers

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Post by conception »

fukuandfuku2 wrote: post #6

I was sure this was going to say that they were going to force travelers to get Truth Social accounts. Somehow I was surprised beyond my wildest guess what they would be asking people to do. I want people to visit the U.S., but if they require that they submit all of this data, I expect that they all protest by not visiting or even coming here for work. There are just so many terrible ideas that come from this admini…

If you think they are bad ideas, your presumptions of their goals may be incorrect. Bad meaning not furthering their goals that is.

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Post by pants2 »

PaulCarrack wrote: post #9

They want email addresses used. How does that work for people who use Mozilla Relay or Apple's HideMyEmail? You can easily accumulate hundreds of unique email addresses this way. Do they really expect you to input 500+ email addresses?

It doesn't matter, they likely want everyone to be non-compliant so that they have an excuse to arrest you if they don't like you.

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Post by potatoicecoffee »

Habgdnv wrote: post #10
PaulCarrack wrote: post #9

They want email addresses used. How does that work for people who use Mozilla Relay or Apple's HideMyEmail? You can easily accumulate hundreds of unique email addresses this way. Do they really expect you to input 500+ email addresses?

I came here to ask exactly the same question - i use temp addresses for lots of scammy-looking services. I don't even care to read what the email or domain is. I guess there is no way to enter the US?

you could put down the email address they end up in or you could learn to lie plausibly

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Post by zappb »

k310 wrote: post #7

Not that I know the details, but wasn't it easier to join the Mafia? Just the names and addresses of your folks in the old country (as "collateral") The analogy is kind of striking, when you think about it.

Gotta be born into it.

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Post by k310 »

zappb wrote: post #17
k310 wrote: post #7

Not that I know the details, but wasn't it easier to join the Mafia? Just the names and addresses of your folks in the old country (as "collateral") The analogy is kind of striking, when you think about it.

Gotta be born into it.

What about Henry Hill? (Goodfellas)

Probably applies to “made men”

And that’s no guarantee. Look at Billy Batts.

Re: US administration to require app, social media, possibly DNA for travelers

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Post by hulitu »

k310 wrote: post #7

Not that I know the details, but wasn't it easier to join the Mafia? Just the names and addresses of your folks in the old country (as "collateral") The analogy is kind of striking, when you think about it.

> The analogy is kind of striking, when you think about it.

It's an old one:

"Damn it feels good to be a gangsta Gettin' voted into the White House Everything lookin' good to the people of the world But the Mafia family is my boss "

Getto Boys, Office Space soundtrack

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