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House of Lords Votes to Ban UK Children from Using Internet VPNs

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Re: House of Lords Votes to Ban UK Children from Using Internet VPNs

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post #5

Very shallow, naive approach to child safety. This is like banning children from riding scooters on a highway. They're just going to use a bike instead. Danger still exists. VPNs are not the only way around this, so if you want to ban the "method of access" you need to be much more broad, and get the parents involved.

> Very shallow, naive approach to child safety.

It's naive of you to think this has anything to do with the child safety.

Re: House of Lords Votes to Ban UK Children from Using Internet VPNs

#12
> may make provision for the provider of a relevant VPN service to apply to any person seeking to access its service in or from the UK age assurance which is highly effective at correctly determining whether or not that person is a child

"The law we made is like super duper good!!"

> Children may also turn to VPNs, which would then undermine the child safety gains of the Online Safety Act

"The law we made is easily circumvented :("

Re: House of Lords Votes to Ban UK Children from Using Internet VPNs

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post #5

Very shallow, naive approach to child safety. This is like banning children from riding scooters on a highway. They're just going to use a bike instead. Danger still exists. VPNs are not the only way around this, so if you want to ban the "method of access" you need to be much more broad, and get the parents involved.

It's like banning children from owning and carrying handguns. They still have knives and ultimately fists. We cannot eliminate harms, therefore we should not attempt to reduce harms.

Re: House of Lords Votes to Ban UK Children from Using Internet VPNs

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post #5

Very shallow, naive approach to child safety. This is like banning children from riding scooters on a highway. They're just going to use a bike instead. Danger still exists. VPNs are not the only way around this, so if you want to ban the "method of access" you need to be much more broad, and get the parents involved.

But, we do ban children on scooters from roads in the UK, but they can go on bikes? I don't understand your metaphor.. what you are suggesting is what we do and it's sensible.

Re: House of Lords Votes to Ban UK Children from Using Internet VPNs

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post #5

Very shallow, naive approach to child safety. This is like banning children from riding scooters on a highway. They're just going to use a bike instead. Danger still exists. VPNs are not the only way around this, so if you want to ban the "method of access" you need to be much more broad, and get the parents involved.

A innefective mandate for the intended purpose, but a very effective mandate to know what adults use VPNs. Between this and the repeated attempts at encryption backdoors, this is something I would expect from a totalitarian regime that is preparing for civil unrest, not the UK.

> but a very effective mandate to know what adults use VPNs.

How? I suppose if the VPN services all started requiring age verification that might tell you this info. But I very much doubt that'll happen, as it runs completely counter to many legitimate VPN services' missions.

Re: House of Lords Votes to Ban UK Children from Using Internet VPNs

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After enforcing age verification to prevent children from viewing those pesky Gaza genocide videos that Israel did not want them to see, they gotta ensure that those brats wont be able to get around it and still see the videos.

Its amazing how this censorship was brought on rapidly and precisely after Netanyahu demanded it at the start of last year. No surprise as half of Starmer government was funded by zionists.

Re: House of Lords Votes to Ban UK Children from Using Internet VPNs

#18
post #13

I foresee a lot of VPN companies starting to offer "secure proxy" services or something like that. "It's not a VPN, it's a secure proxy!"

The law doesn't work like that. First of all, the actual regulation that gets made probably has a definition of VPN and won't rely on a company self-describing as VPN. Secondly law enforcement and courts aren't idiots*

* well, many of them are. But not in the particular way that would be needed for a simple rename to work.

Re: House of Lords Votes to Ban UK Children from Using Internet VPNs

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post #4

Does that mean that VPN providers now need identification before you can open an account?

If this becomes law, then yes. But then people will turn to VPS providers instead and set up their own VPNs, which will then prompt a law to demand age verification before renting any server. I wonder how far they're willing to go down this rabbit hole.
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