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Microsoft will give the FBI a Windows PC data encryption key if ordered

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Re: Microsoft will give the FBI a Windows PC data encryption key if ordered

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Post by cromka »

hsuduebc2 wrote: post #5
davidguetta wrote: post #3

Lol it's been 20 years now that the whole world should stop to be all surprised pikachu about that.

Exactly. Being again and again surprised that corporations will defend you for literally no reason is kinda delusional.

That's a reductionist view. Apple, at least, based a big portion of their image on privacy and encryption. If a company does that and is then proven otherwise, it does a tremendous damage to the brand and stock value and is something shareholders would absolutely sue the board and CEO for. Things like these happened many times in the past.

This isn't that simple.

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Post by nickmccann »

cromka wrote: post #8

Any reason to believe Apple won't do the same with whatever we backup in iCloud?

If you have advanced data protection enabled, Apple claims: “No one else can access your end-to-end encrypted data — not even Apple — and this data remains secure even in the case of a data breach in the cloud.”

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651

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Post by cromka »

internet2000 wrote: post #9
politelemon wrote: post #6

The major OS vendors (apple, google, ms) are complicit in data turnover and have been for over ten years now. It has been reported multiple times so I'm struggling to see the angle being projected here. This feels like click harvesting got the HN "Microsoft bad" crowd.

The San Bernardino iPhone case proves that Apple is very much so not complicit.

This was a decade ago, before the big tech went to brown nose Trump on live TV. We live in different reality nowadays. Apple doesn't even market their encryption and safety anymore, like they did on massive billboards all over the world.

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Post by Noaidi »

Apple will do this too. Your laptop encryption key is stored in your keychain (without telliing you!). All is needed is a warrant for your iCloud account and they also have access to your laptop.

sixcolors.com/post/2025/09/filevault-on-macos-tahoe-no-longer-uses-icloud-to-store-its-recovery-key/

Re: Microsoft will give the FBI a Windows PC data encryption key if ordered

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Post by cromka »

nickmccann wrote: post #14
cromka wrote: post #8

Any reason to believe Apple won't do the same with whatever we backup in iCloud?

If you have advanced data protection enabled, Apple claims: “No one else can access your end-to-end encrypted data — not even Apple — and this data remains secure even in the case of a data breach in the cloud.” https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651

Yeah, the problem is whether they already bent over for Trump admin or not yet.

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Post by internet2000 »

cromka wrote: post #15
internet2000 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The San Bernardino iPhone case proves that Apple is very much so not complicit.

This was a decade ago , before the big tech went to brown nose Trump on live TV. We live in different reality nowadays. Apple doesn't even market their encryption and safety anymore, like they did on massive billboards all over the world.

They've only done more since 2016.

Lockdown mode: https://support.apple.com/en-us/105120

Advanced Data Protection for iCloud: https://support.apple.com/en-us/108756

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Post by Hamuko »

cromka wrote: post #8

Any reason to believe Apple won't do the same with whatever we backup in iCloud?

iCloud login is still optional on macOS. Can't download stuff from the App Store and I think some continuity things require iCloud, but otherwise pretty solid.
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