GIGO very much still applies.
AI can 10x developers in creating tech debt
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#12The “craftsman to Ikea factory manager” line from the interview is the real headline here. AI does the fun creative stuff, you get stuck reviewing 2000 lines you didn’t write. Revert rate tells you more than any “10x” claim.
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#13Non-native speaker here. Is the phrasing of the blog title awkward or am I the only one? Seems like they are using "10x" as a verb and my brain kept parsing "10x" as a adjective to developer, reading "10x developer" which is a already established industry lingo.
for what it's worth, it didn't seem odd to me. I guess the missing article and phrase indicate it's a verb.
"So AI can ... developers" is begging for a verb, there is no room for an adjective there.
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#14GIGO very much still applies.
We’ve invented a machine that can spew a lot of garbage out. Sure, you can sift through it to find the nuggets of gold, but the proponents of this new methodology heavily discount this additional effort. Studies seems to show that at the end of the day the benefits are minimal, despite the claims.
Once again, it is a sign of modern programming that the solution to more problems is throwing more code at it, rather than more upfront thinking that will lead to less code overall. The “work hard, not smart” crowd won this round, I guess.
The best engineer used to be the lazy one [1]. The mental effort of micromanaging a machine by explaining what you need in prose is diametrically opposite to just being lazy, sitting on a hammock, and writing directly the simplest possible solution that requires the least amount of maintenance. But sure, enjoy the 200k line vibe coded ball of mud to run ferrets and gas towns or whatever these guys do all day.
1: before dopaminergic stimulants were as widespread as today.
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#16Non-native speaker here. Is the phrasing of the blog title awkward or am I the only one? Seems like they are using "10x" as a verb and my brain kept parsing "10x" as a adjective to developer, reading "10x developer" which is a already established industry lingo.
Native speaker here: yeah, it's awkward. It's possible to use a multiplier like "10x" or "5x" as a verb like that, but the object has to be the thing being increased , like "productivity" or "sales". And it's usually best to put a word like "the" or "your" in there to avoid confusing it with the case where you're using 10x as an adjective (like in "10x developer" or "10x growth"). So there are a lot of articles and b…
No, even "How to 10x your wealth" is grammatical abuse. "How to double" or "quadruple" is acceptable. "To 10x" is dumb techbro way of saying "to multiply by 10".
I hate hate hate this trend of grammatical fuckery of using "some-number x" as verbs.
It's another dumb shit techbros say, like pinging people...
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#17Non-native speaker here. Is the phrasing of the blog title awkward or am I the only one? Seems like they are using "10x" as a verb and my brain kept parsing "10x" as a adjective to developer, reading "10x developer" which is a already established industry lingo.
It definitely misleads the reader for the reasons you mentioned.
These types of sentences are called garden-path sentences. You can read some typical examples here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence#Examples
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#18It often takes me 3-4 iterations with a coding assistant once you get to a working solution, to get one that still works but is simplified down ditching >80% of needless complexity introduced in the first take.
Many stop at the first thing that works. This is totally fine for code that will run once to get a result and then be discarded. But if that code is going into a product or service that will be maintained, you have to have the knowledge and the will to push further until you have not just a working but a lean, clean and simple solution.
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#19GIGO very much still applies.
We’ve invented a machine that can spew a lot of garbage out. Sure, you can sift through it to find the nuggets of gold, but the proponents of this new methodology heavily discount this additional effort. Studies seems to show that at the end of the day the benefits are minimal, despite the claims. Once again, it is a sign of modern programming that the solution to more problems is throwing more code at it, rather tha…
It doesn't have to be black and white. I use the agent just as another tool in my programming tool belt. It shines especially in the boring repetetive tasks that would otherwise not be done because I can't justify the needed time. The choices arent just "no agentic AI" and "vibe coding only", there is a middle ground.
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#20From the guys who don't understand that people don't like to see their questions closed as a "duplicate" of an unrelated question.