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Viking Ship Museum in Denmark announces the discovery of the largest cog

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Re: Viking Ship Museum in Denmark announces the discovery of the largest cog

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have the same etymological root, from a Proto-Germanic word for a lump, which is the tooth (cog) on a cogwheel, or the round bulky lump of a cog ship.

So they're cognates.

Nice

Re: Viking Ship Museum in Denmark announces the discovery of the largest cog

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have the same etymological root, from a Proto-Germanic word for a lump, which is the tooth (cog) on a cogwheel, or the round bulky lump of a cog ship.

So they're cognates.

But "cognate" is not.

Re: Viking Ship Museum in Denmark announces the discovery of the largest cog

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post #13

That museum was one of the highlights of my trip to Norway years ago. Looks like it's closed now and being merged into a new museum: https://www.vikingtidsmuseet.no/english/

Wrong country, wrong museum.

Here: https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/

Re: Viking Ship Museum in Denmark announces the discovery of the largest cog

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I wish people didn't use headline superlatives so much. If you compare this ship to the pleasure craft of Caligula which was destroyed in ww2, you have to start qualifying things by open water vs lake-bound. Caligula had two of them, in Roman times. One was 20m wide and 70m long. They were "carnival cruise line" party boats. It's a big ship. It's an important find. It's not a supership or a supercog, or a beast, or a…

> They were "carnival cruise line" party boats.

I agree Roman ships were large and cogs were not in comparison. But Caligula’s were more like floating party platforms that could be sunk even in a lake.

Re: Viking Ship Museum in Denmark announces the discovery of the largest cog

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More discussion, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46633574 ( "Found: Medieval Cargo Ship – Largest Vessel of Its Kind Ever (smithsonianmag.com)" , 54 comments) edit: Also, I think this domain (medievalists.net) is suspect. This article has no author byline ; and its text is highly similar to other published articles (like [0]), with only minor word changes. Here's an A/B of an excerpt: > [vikingeskibsmuseet.dk] "…

I came across this medievalists site the other day in a search and quickly realized it's SEO slop. Unsurprising that they are branching out into niche topics now that more typical areas (food, home improvement, software, etc) are becoming saturated.

Re: Viking Ship Museum in Denmark announces the discovery of the largest cog

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have the same etymological root, from a Proto-Germanic word for a lump, which is the tooth (cog) on a cogwheel, or the round bulky lump of a cog ship.

So they're cognates.

Cog mates, even

Re: Viking Ship Museum in Denmark announces the discovery of the largest cog

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post #3

I wish people didn't use headline superlatives so much. If you compare this ship to the pleasure craft of Caligula which was destroyed in ww2, you have to start qualifying things by open water vs lake-bound. Caligula had two of them, in Roman times. One was 20m wide and 70m long. They were "carnival cruise line" party boats. It's a big ship. It's an important find. It's not a supership or a supercog, or a beast, or a…

The aspect ratio of that vessel should give you pause though, that was not a pleasureboat but an open ocean vessel.

Re: Viking Ship Museum in Denmark announces the discovery of the largest cog

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post #3

I wish people didn't use headline superlatives so much. If you compare this ship to the pleasure craft of Caligula which was destroyed in ww2, you have to start qualifying things by open water vs lake-bound. Caligula had two of them, in Roman times. One was 20m wide and 70m long. They were "carnival cruise line" party boats. It's a big ship. It's an important find. It's not a supership or a supercog, or a beast, or a…

But according to the article and other sources, it strictly is the biggest cog. Why wouldn't it be right for them to announce it that way?

It's the biggest found. Largest. Both fine words.
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