If I dual boot into Windows, I take it I am no longer contactable on my phone?
A smartphone that runs Android, launches Debian, and dual-boots Windows 11
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#12If I dual boot into Windows, I take it I am no longer contactable on my phone?
Windows devices can address cellular modems.
Re: A smartphone that runs Android, launches Debian, and dual-boots Windows 11
#13Hi HN — I’m Emre, founder of Nex Computer (NexDock). After ~14 years working on “phone-as-PC,” we’re announcing NexPhone: a smartphone that runs Android by default, can launch a full Debian Linux environment on demand, and can dual-boot into Windows 11. Write-up with background + rationale: https://nexphone.com/blog/the-tale-of-nexphone-one-phone-eve... Curious what HN thinks about the tradeoffs here: dual-boot vs vi…
1) Is your supply chain plan published anywhere?
Always seems to be the weak point making new entrants.
2) Please don’t add too many days to the patch interval of these OS, if any.
3) How will the hardware security rival the Pixel line?
Wishing you success!
Re: A smartphone that runs Android, launches Debian, and dual-boots Windows 11
#14I’m sad that people are spending time on this when they should be building a Linux phone.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd love it to be the other way around: Linux is native, and you can start an Android environment in the userland for the few Android apps I can't avoid :) I don't care about Windows, but it's useful if I want to deal with a Windows only app (a few from the government locally).
But note that I am unlikely to get one today: with a drawer full of Linux phones (from Motorola A1200, Nokia N900 and N9, Palm Pre+, HP Pre 3, PinePhone, Meizu MX4 shipped with Ubuntu, and Nexus 4 running Ubuntu), I'd really be looking for something that does exactly what I want with enough performance to actually dock to my 8k TV or 4k dual screen setup.
Somehow your list misses Librem 5, which is more powerful than others, although not as powerful as the Nexphone will.
Re: A smartphone that runs Android, launches Debian, and dual-boots Windows 11
#16I’m sad that people are spending time on this when they should be building a Linux phone.
Linux phones already exist: Librem 5 and Pinephone.
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#17I’m sad that people are spending time on this when they should be building a Linux phone.
Linux phones already exist: Librem 5 and Pinephone.
Those have a ridiculously low performance.
While this phone still does not have an Armv9-A CPU, but only a quadruple Cortex-A78, that is nonetheless like 4 to 10 times faster than the phones mentioned by you and faster than a light notebook of a decade ago.
The other Linux phones are barely competitive with a laptop of 25 years ago and they are not really usable as a personal computer today, unless you like waiting for your computer.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
But note that I am unlikely to get one today: with a drawer full of Linux phones (from Motorola A1200, Nokia N900 and N9, Palm Pre+, HP Pre 3, PinePhone, Meizu MX4 shipped with Ubuntu, and Nexus 4 running Ubuntu), I'd really be looking for something that does exactly what I want with enough performance to actually dock to my 8k TV or 4k dual screen setup.
Somehow your list misses Librem 5, which is more powerful than others, although not as powerful as the Nexphone will.
It is hard to associate in the same sentence the word "powerful" with a quadruple Cortex-A53 CPU.
Cortex-A78 is in a totally different class of "powerful", when compared with Cortex-A53. Cortex-A53 has not been designed as a top performer among Arm CPUs, but only as a low-power core. Even at its launch, in 2012, 14 years ago, Cortex-A53 was much slower than the older big Arm cores, like Cortex-A15 from 2010. I am aware of this from direct experience, because a decade ago I have developed software on several SBCs with Cortex-A53, including Raspberry Pi, and also on an ODROID model with Cortex-A15, which ran circles around them, and unlike them it delivered a passable desktop experience.
On the other hand, at its launch in 2020, Cortex-A78 was faster than any older Arm CPU cores. It was then surpassed by the Cortex-X1 launched simultaneously with it, and then by the Apple M1, launched later that year.
Even if some enthusiasts have used old Raspberry Pi and similar SBCs with Cortex-A53 as PCs, that was really not wise as they were too slow for a comfortable use and there were faster alternatives with a similar price (after you added the cost of all required peripherals).
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linux phones already exist: Librem 5 and Pinephone.
Those have a ridiculously low performance. While this phone still does not have an Armv9-A CPU, but only a quadruple Cortex-A78, that is nonetheless like 4 to 10 times faster than the phones mentioned by you and faster than a light notebook of a decade ago. The other Linux phones are barely competitive with a laptop of 25 years ago and they are not really usable as a personal computer today, unless you like waiting f…
Specs do not show the whole pucture: https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/
Librem 5 is my daily driver btw.
Re: A smartphone that runs Android, launches Debian, and dual-boots Windows 11
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those have a ridiculously low performance. While this phone still does not have an Armv9-A CPU, but only a quadruple Cortex-A78, that is nonetheless like 4 to 10 times faster than the phones mentioned by you and faster than a light notebook of a decade ago. The other Linux phones are barely competitive with a laptop of 25 years ago and they are not really usable as a personal computer today, unless you like waiting f…
Specs do not show the whole pucture: https://puri.sm/posts/the-danger-of-focusing-on-specs/ Librem 5 is my daily driver btw.
While I partially agree with what it says at your link, about specs depending on the context, I am also well aware about the actual performance of quadruple Cortex-A53 CPUs and how it compares with alternatives, because about a decade ago I have used many single-board computers with various kinds of such CPUs (including Raspberry Pi, but also other very different SoCs). I eventually abandoned them for better alternatives.
If you have modest requirements, you can be content with such a CPU, e.g. for reading and editing simple documents or browsing the Internet with scripting disabled.
The point is that there is no need to restrain yourself to cope with its limitations, because for more than a decade there have been much better alternatives.
Even when your target is a sub-$100 computer, it makes no sense to use any CPU weaker than a quadruple Cortex-A76, like in the many computer models using Rockchip CPUs or in the current Raspberry Pi. While there are much more sources of Cortex-A76 based computers, the number of those offering much faster Cortex-A78 based CPUs using Qualcomm or Mediatek SoCs, including this smartphone, are steadily increasing.