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Colorectal cancer is now the top cause of cancer death in younger people

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Re: Colorectal cancer is now the top cause of cancer death in younger people

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Post by pluralmonad »

helph67 wrote: post #7

Perhaps too much red meat and not enough fiber? "But foods with fiber can have other good effects as well. They can help you stay at a healthy weight and lower the risk of diabetes, heart disease and some types of cancer" https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-h...

To give another perspective on this, all my intestinal issues resolved when I eliminated fiber from my diet. Two other people I very intimately know that had IBS have managed their symptoms into remission by carefully gatekeeping fiber in their diets. last I was deep into this (5yrs ago or so) almost all of the prominent nutritional science was based on survey data and seemed to extrapolate way more than I was comfortable with given the narrow source. I have not kept abreast of new developments, but as far as I know the major impediments to real controlled nutritional studies are the same they always have been.

Re: Colorectal cancer is now the top cause of cancer death in younger people

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Post by whatevaa »

tbdfm wrote: post #6

If you are avoiding a colonoscopy because you don’t want to get knocked out, they can do it while you’re awake. If for some reason you don’t want to be anesthetized you can just ask. It is also cheaper this way and you can drive yourself home. Based on my limited research it seems like anesthesia is mostly there because people are prude. The painful parts of procedure doesn’t hurt any more than having bad gas pain. A…

I think most people are not used to having things stuck up their ass.

Re: Colorectal cancer is now the top cause of cancer death in younger people

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Post by ggggffggggg »

whatevaa wrote: post #12
tbdfm wrote: post #6

If you are avoiding a colonoscopy because you don’t want to get knocked out, they can do it while you’re awake. If for some reason you don’t want to be anesthetized you can just ask. It is also cheaper this way and you can drive yourself home. Based on my limited research it seems like anesthesia is mostly there because people are prude. The painful parts of procedure doesn’t hurt any more than having bad gas pain. A…

I think most people are not used to having things stuck up their ass.

Lol. “Most” is doing a lot of work there.

Re: Colorectal cancer is now the top cause of cancer death in younger people

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Post by b2w »

spapas82 wrote: post #8
tbdfm wrote: post #6

If you are avoiding a colonoscopy because you don’t want to get knocked out, they can do it while you’re awake. If for some reason you don’t want to be anesthetized you can just ask. It is also cheaper this way and you can drive yourself home. Based on my limited research it seems like anesthesia is mostly there because people are prude. The painful parts of procedure doesn’t hurt any more than having bad gas pain. A…

Actually the greatest thing for me is the falling asleep effortlessly part!

To me, it felt like some of the best sleep of my life! The gibberish out of my mouth afterwards thou...well it was a good laugh for my spouse, which is a happy sight seen upon opening my eyes.

Re: Colorectal cancer is now the top cause of cancer death in younger people

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Post by dzhiurgis »

tbdfm wrote: post #6

If you are avoiding a colonoscopy because you don’t want to get knocked out, they can do it while you’re awake. If for some reason you don’t want to be anesthetized you can just ask. It is also cheaper this way and you can drive yourself home. Based on my limited research it seems like anesthesia is mostly there because people are prude. The painful parts of procedure doesn’t hurt any more than having bad gas pain. A…

How about DNA based stool tests instead of colonoscopy?

Re: Colorectal cancer is now the top cause of cancer death in younger people

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Post by NoPicklez »

pluralmonad wrote: post #11
helph67 wrote: post #7

Perhaps too much red meat and not enough fiber? "But foods with fiber can have other good effects as well. They can help you stay at a healthy weight and lower the risk of diabetes, heart disease and some types of cancer" https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-h...

To give another perspective on this, all my intestinal issues resolved when I eliminated fiber from my diet. Two other people I very intimately know that had IBS have managed their symptoms into remission by carefully gatekeeping fiber in their diets. last I was deep into this (5yrs ago or so) almost all of the prominent nutritional science was based on survey data and seemed to extrapolate way more than I was comfor…

Its a good perspective, however perhaps your body just cannot deal with a higher amount of fiber compared to others.

In the same way that diabetics need to tightly control their sugar intake, it doesn't mean therefore that need for sugar is up for debate.

Re: Colorectal cancer is now the top cause of cancer death in younger people

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Post by switknee »

helph67 wrote: post #7

Perhaps too much red meat and not enough fiber? "But foods with fiber can have other good effects as well. They can help you stay at a healthy weight and lower the risk of diabetes, heart disease and some types of cancer" https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-h...

Fiber is the cause of many of intestinal issues, making constipation and crohn's disease worse.

Red meat also helps people stay at a healthy weight, lower the risk of heart disease (caused by glucose) and some types of cancer (which feed on glucose). What do fiber and red meat have in common? They are not sugar. You could replace fiber with other indigestible material such as sand, the effect would not be much different.

Re: Colorectal cancer is now the top cause of cancer death in younger people

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Post by Klonoar »

switknee wrote: post #18
helph67 wrote: post #7

Perhaps too much red meat and not enough fiber? "But foods with fiber can have other good effects as well. They can help you stay at a healthy weight and lower the risk of diabetes, heart disease and some types of cancer" https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-h...

Fiber is the cause of many of intestinal issues, making constipation and crohn's disease worse. Red meat also helps people stay at a healthy weight, lower the risk of heart disease (caused by glucose) and some types of cancer (which feed on glucose). What do fiber and red meat have in common? They are not sugar. You could replace fiber with other indigestible material such as sand, the effect would not be much differ…

> Fiber is the cause of many of intestinal issues, making constipation and crohn's disease worse.

Big ol' citation needed on that one.

Fiber is more than fine if you actually drink enough water. There are also two types of fiber; some people need one more than the other, or vice-versa.

I know several people with Crohns where fiber has made the biggest difference in controlling it.

Re: Colorectal cancer is now the top cause of cancer death in younger people

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Post by eszed »

tbdfm wrote: post #6

If you are avoiding a colonoscopy because you don’t want to get knocked out, they can do it while you’re awake. If for some reason you don’t want to be anesthetized you can just ask. It is also cheaper this way and you can drive yourself home. Based on my limited research it seems like anesthesia is mostly there because people are prude. The painful parts of procedure doesn’t hurt any more than having bad gas pain. A…

Ask for novocain around your external sphincter - there's a high likelihood that the doctors won't think of it, because they're used to doing the procedure on sedated patients - unless, you know, you're otherwise prepared for that experience. That'll take care of ~75% of the discomfort. I otherwise endorse everything you say - it's a fascinating procedure to watch while awake!
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