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Immigration Agencies Are Openly Defying Federal Courts

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Re: Immigration Agencies Are Openly Defying Federal Courts

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DHS has become what actual conservatives were worried about during its creation - super federal power without balance. There exists precedence within the US: the military. They are granted extraordinary powers at the discretion of civilian government. It employs Officers to manage it across branches, they are paid well, and their employ is terminated if their charges fail. If boots on the ground fail there is the UCM…

They should be seen in a normal court like the rest of us peasants.

No star courts.

Re: Immigration Agencies Are Openly Defying Federal Courts

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Correct - and incoming POTUS will have to use up political capital to do so.

This is insufficient, since the 22nd amendment only limits the number of terms to which a president can be elected. A president can legally serve longer than that. For example, consider a president who dies in office a few days into the term. The VP becomes president, serves out the remainder of that four-year term and then be elected for two more terms. The statute of limitations would therefore need to be 12 years…

Nope. If the VP becomes president and serves longer than two years, then he can only be elected once.

Re: Immigration Agencies Are Openly Defying Federal Courts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct - and incoming POTUS will have to use up political capital to do so.

This is insufficient, since the 22nd amendment only limits the number of terms to which a president can be elected. A president can legally serve longer than that. For example, consider a president who dies in office a few days into the term. The VP becomes president, serves out the remainder of that four-year term and then be elected for two more terms. The statute of limitations would therefore need to be 12 years…

> For example, consider a president who dies in office a few days into the term. The VP becomes president, serves out the remainder of that four-year term and then be elected for two more terms

text of the 22nd amendment covers that. serving more than 2 years of someone else's term means you can only be elected once.

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

Re: Immigration Agencies Are Openly Defying Federal Courts

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DHS has become what actual conservatives were worried about during its creation - super federal power without balance. There exists precedence within the US: the military. They are granted extraordinary powers at the discretion of civilian government. It employs Officers to manage it across branches, they are paid well, and their employ is terminated if their charges fail. If boots on the ground fail there is the UCM…

They should be seen in a normal court like the rest of us peasants. No star courts.

Not arguing for star courts. The UCMJ is a supplement to civilian courts, but applies additional levers. I am arguing that a similar system be applied to federal LEO. Right now they are only beholden to the civilian system. How is that going? Even if the administration prosecuted ICE for murder, it'd just get chucked out of federal court. All the 'officer' would have to do is not enter the state again.

Re: Immigration Agencies Are Openly Defying Federal Courts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They should be seen in a normal court like the rest of us peasants. No star courts.

Not arguing for star courts. The UCMJ is a supplement to civilian courts, but applies additional levers. I am arguing that a similar system be applied to federal LEO. Right now they are only beholden to the civilian system. How is that going? Even if the administration prosecuted ICE for murder, it'd just get chucked out of federal court. All the 'officer' would have to do is not enter the state again.

I'm taking a charitable interpretation of your take for sure. I do see the value of additional levers, but I don't think realistically it would be feasible to make such a court.

Counter-point: I don't think Chauvin would've been brought to justice if he were tried in some kind of cop-court.

I'm open minded though, I appreciate your perspective, gave me food for thought.

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