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Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse

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Post by alexpadula »

dandelionv1bes wrote: post #10
mritchie712 wrote: post #8

the "Prompt Management" part of these products always seemed odd. Does anyone use it? Why?

I do understand why it’s a product - it feels a bit like what databricks has with model artifacts. Ie having a repo of prompts so you can track performance changes against is good. Especially if say you have users other than engineers touching them (ie product manager wants to AB). Having said that, I struggled a lot with actually implementing langfuse due to numerous bugs/confusing AI driven documentation. So I’m am…

I thought the docs were pretty good just going through them to see what the product was. For me I just don't see the use-case but I'm not well versed in their industry.

Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse

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Post by dandelionv1bes »

alexpadula wrote: post #11
dandelionv1bes wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do understand why it’s a product - it feels a bit like what databricks has with model artifacts. Ie having a repo of prompts so you can track performance changes against is good. Especially if say you have users other than engineers touching them (ie product manager wants to AB). Having said that, I struggled a lot with actually implementing langfuse due to numerous bugs/confusing AI driven documentation. So I’m am…

I thought the docs were pretty good just going through them to see what the product was. For me I just don't see the use-case but I'm not well versed in their industry.

I think the docs are great to read, but implementing was a completely different story for me, ie, the Ask AI recommended solution for implementing Claude just didn’t work for me.

They do have GitHub discussions where you can raise things, but I also encountered some issues with installation that just made me want to roll the dice on another provider.

They do have a new release coming in a few weeks so I’ll try it again then for sure.

Edit: I think I’m coming across as negative and do want to recommend that it is worth trying out langfuse for sure if you’re looking at observability!

Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse

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Post by tuananh »

ushakov wrote: post #4
tuananh wrote: post #3

how does it benefit for clickhouse?

they want to enter the llm observability market and langfuse has already built a convenient wrapper around clickhouse that companies have adopted https://clickhouse.com/blog/clickhouse-raises-400-million-se...

thank you! i missed that news

Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse

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Post by shmichael »

bezbac wrote: post #7

Congratulations to everyone involved, quite remarkable considering Langfuse was only founded as part of YC 23.

Without the purchase price, it is unclear whether this deserves congratulations or condolences.

Two years in the LLM race will have definitely depleted their seed raise of $4m from 2023, and with no news of additional funds raised it's more than likely this was a fire sale.

Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse

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Post by stuartjohnson12 »

shmichael wrote: post #16
bezbac wrote: post #7

Congratulations to everyone involved, quite remarkable considering Langfuse was only founded as part of YC 23.

Without the purchase price, it is unclear whether this deserves congratulations or condolences. Two years in the LLM race will have definitely depleted their seed raise of $4m from 2023, and with no news of additional funds raised it's more than likely this was a fire sale.

Anecdotally, from the AI startup scene in London, I do not know folks who swear by Langfuse. Honestly, evals platforms are still only just starting to catch on. I haven't used any tracing/monitoring tools for LLMs that made me feel like, say, Honeycomb does.

Re: ClickHouse acquires Langfuse

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Post by stingraycharles »

gyre007 wrote: post #17

> Our goal continues to be building the best LLM engineering platform Interesting headline for a checks notes time series database company.

That’s what you get when you raise a lot of VC capital. Just being the best timeseries database is not enough.
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