I think what is important to keep in mind: Merz is on the conservative, pro-economy side of the conservative party, whereas Merkel is not. She has a background in science. She never liked Merz.
Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
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Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#12Was that not clear from the beginning? Nobody ever claimed it was for strategic purposes, the narrative was "we don't like nuclear anything, we will get rid of it we can bear the costs". So I don't think you could even call it a strategic mistake, but masochism maybe? Especially while keeping the exit date in the height of the fallout of a real strategic mistake, the dependence on cheap russian gas.
It was a populist move because a big chunk of the electorate is German moms and German grandmas who are absolutely terrified of radiation post Chernobyl.
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#13Even though we use well under 25% of the fuel in even the most efficient reactors, the energy density of fissile fuel is many orders of magnitude higher than conventional fuels.
A decision to forego that benefit of energy density will be painful, especially if implemented quickly.
Involuntary XKCD:
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#14I think what is important to keep in mind: Merz is on the conservative, pro-economy side of the conservative party, whereas Merkel is not. She has a background in science. She never liked Merz.
But Merkel AFAIR never claimed this decision was based on any science but on popular demand and public feeling after Fukushima.
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#16I think what is important to keep in mind: Merz is on the conservative, pro-economy side of the conservative party, whereas Merkel is not. She has a background in science. She never liked Merz.
I did physics in middle school. I am always right, I have a background in science
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#17Was that not clear from the beginning? Nobody ever claimed it was for strategic purposes, the narrative was "we don't like nuclear anything, we will get rid of it we can bear the costs". So I don't think you could even call it a strategic mistake, but masochism maybe? Especially while keeping the exit date in the height of the fallout of a real strategic mistake, the dependence on cheap russian gas.
My money is on Russian meddling, to make Germany dependent or Russian gas. Which happened. Until the US blew up the pipeline, and now Germany is dependent on US gas.
You mean the Green party was undermined by Russians?
The Green party had the goal of de-nuclearization from the beginning, at that time the Soviet Union was still in existence. When the Green party came to power and negotiated the nuclear exit, they did not need any external motivation to do so.
The only way I can see this being Russian meddling would be the Green party being infiltrated from Russia from the beginning.
If you have sources that point to the Green party being undermined by Soviet/Russian espionage or some such, please point me torwards them.
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#18Here we go again.
No, even fusion won't rescue the climate. Fission certainly could have helped in the transition.
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#19So, basically his own party, CDU was part of the coalition when nuclear exit was decided. The chancellor from his own party, Merkel decided to accelerate exit after Fukushima, while increasing dependency on Russian gas and blocking construction of renewables in CDU/CSU governed states. And now it is the previous government that failed the energy transition. Funnily enough, both this and previous governments declared current state of affairs very inefficient and bureaucratic and promised to fix it, so the question is, if German political mainstream in general is capable of making substantial improvement or we should tear the system apart and elect AfD+BSW combo as shock therapy.
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#20It also was a strategic mistake to bury under the carpet the investigation for the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage, which was obviously orchestrated by our biggest ally. The US of A.
It's the same ridiculous situation as with the Greenland saga. The transatlanticists don't want to let go of the past, but America isn't looking back.