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Tesla's Germany Sales Down 72% from Their Peak

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Re: Tesla's Germany Sales Down 72% from Their Peak

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The cars now look generic and driving them will brand you as either the type of person who gets all their news from alt right social media or someone who just can’t afford buying from a more established car maker.

Keep your pathetic critique about 'generic' cars and 'alt-right media.' It’s nothing but the flimsy rhetoric used by your far-left terrorists to justify setting cars and factories on fire.

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post #10

The cars now look generic and driving them will brand you as either the type of person who gets all their news from alt right social media or someone who just can’t afford buying from a more established car maker.

sorry, owning a tesla is a sign of being poor ?

In the sense that being overweight is a sign of being hungry.

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And this is with the Chinese cars handicapped by a double-digit punitive tariff ( https://trade.ec.europa.eu/access-to-markets/en/news/eu-comm... )

Arguably, China is subsidizing everything with a low currency, though. It may cancel out (or maybe more than cancel out) those tariffs.

> Arguably, China is subsidizing everything with a low currency

Not really. "Subsidizing everything" is an oxymoron, if you subsidize some production it must be at the expense of other production that is providing the subsidies.

> It may cancel out (or maybe more than cancel out) those tariffs.

The opposite is true, tariffs reduce demand for Chinese products and thus for Chinese currency, which leads to lower yuan.

If you want higher yuan, remove the tariffs.

Re: Tesla's Germany Sales Down 72% from Their Peak

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post #10

The cars now look generic and driving them will brand you as either the type of person who gets all their news from alt right social media or someone who just can’t afford buying from a more established car maker.

sorry, owning a tesla is a sign of being poor ?

At least in Denmark where I live, since Tesla started competing on cost a few years ago, and then the DOGE fiasco. It’s the car you get if you’re already a Tesla owner and hardcore believer, or just see a car as a means of transportation and buy purely on specs. The days when Teslas were status symbols are long gone. We can buy so many other interesting EVs here, for example I just had a friend who was an EV hater six months ago come by showing off his brand new Renault R5 today. That car has 10x more character than a TM3 and costs less even if he got it fully loaded. VAG has a very strong lineup of TMY competitors that combined are vastly outselling it, and so has Kia/Hyundai and Renault. Those with more money will go for BMW, Mercedes, Audi, or even Porsche. And then there are all the Chinese brands starting to make inroads. Most here see buying Chinese as less problematic than buying Musk.

Re: Tesla's Germany Sales Down 72% from Their Peak

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post #10

The cars now look generic and driving them will brand you as either the type of person who gets all their news from alt right social media or someone who just can’t afford buying from a more established car maker.

sorry, owning a tesla is a sign of being poor ?

Apparently the secondhand market is so bad (perhaps due to the whole thing where Tesla doesn’t permit wholly independent resale) that in some markets they’re some of the cheapest to be had that are qualified for ride share drivers. There’s a silly percentage of older teslas being used for that purpose in some cities.

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Electric cars in general don’t really make much sense in Germany. Most people live in apartments without access to personal chargers, combined with high electricity cost you end up not even saving money for the inconvenience.

30% of households living in single family homes is not insignificant. In the villages outside the large cities there's plenty of space to charge your car at home and an increasing amount of solar on the roof.

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One interesting thing for me is NVIDIA coming out with its reasoning model for self driving.

If it works well, Tesla's strategy of keeping the car minimal/cheap to produce but with enough sensors and an upgradable hardware may become extremely useful as new techniques are coming to tackle the long tail of self-driving cases to handle.

I'm sure Tesla will soon copy Nvidia and put a reasoning model in its cars as well.

Re: Tesla's Germany Sales Down 72% from Their Peak

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post #12

Electric cars in general don’t really make much sense in Germany. Most people live in apartments without access to personal chargers, combined with high electricity cost you end up not even saving money for the inconvenience.

Germany has high gasoline cost. If what Google tells me is correct about current costs per kWh to charge at Tesla Superchargers there (0.40-0.70 Euro) and current gas prices there (1.70 Euro/liter) an EV charged at Superchargers would have about the same energy costs as an ICE car that gets 16 km/l if you charge at the more expensive Supercharges and an ICE car that gets 28 km/l if you charge at the less expensive Superchargers.

Re: Tesla's Germany Sales Down 72% from Their Peak

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sorry, owning a tesla is a sign of being poor ?

At least in Denmark where I live, since Tesla started competing on cost a few years ago, and then the DOGE fiasco. It’s the car you get if you’re already a Tesla owner and hardcore believer, or just see a car as a means of transportation and buy purely on specs. The days when Teslas were status symbols are long gone. We can buy so many other interesting EVs here, for example I just had a friend who was an EV hater si…

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