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Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by exsomet »

close04 wrote: post #6
JohnFen wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OneDrive doesn't always work fine, though. I avoid it like the plague because a OneDrive screwup caused me loss of valuable data. Was it user error? Maybe, maybe not, but that's irrelevant. If it's so easy to make an unrecoverable and catastrophic mistake, it's a tool that's too dangerous to use on the daily.

> If it's so easy to make an unrecoverable and catastrophic mistake, it's a tool that's too dangerous to use on the daily. Shift+Del and rm -rf don't have any guardrails around them. In tech you are surrounded by footguns and bear traps. MS made it that much worse by wrapping these in dark patterns that may change without notice but the logic that "dangerous things should be prohibited" is a perfectly good way to end…

Shift+Del and rm -rm are pretty hard to use by accident. Onedrive comes with the computer preconfigured to do some pretty unintuitive things.

For example, if a user does not actively change the save location, at least for office apps, the default behavior is to save to onedrive.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by gruez »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #2

Whelp browsing this on my phone was one way to remind me to put my VPN back on holy crap. In the middle of the article is an embedded TikTok video about the subject of the article while three different ads were overlapping my screen. Unbelievable.

>remind me to put my VPN back on

don't you mean adblock?

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by patates »

close04 wrote: post #6
JohnFen wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OneDrive doesn't always work fine, though. I avoid it like the plague because a OneDrive screwup caused me loss of valuable data. Was it user error? Maybe, maybe not, but that's irrelevant. If it's so easy to make an unrecoverable and catastrophic mistake, it's a tool that's too dangerous to use on the daily.

> If it's so easy to make an unrecoverable and catastrophic mistake, it's a tool that's too dangerous to use on the daily. Shift+Del and rm -rf don't have any guardrails around them. In tech you are surrounded by footguns and bear traps. MS made it that much worse by wrapping these in dark patterns that may change without notice but the logic that "dangerous things should be prohibited" is a perfectly good way to end…

rm -rf doesn't get this:

https://i.imgur.com/LZGEpGt.png

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by pjc50 »

p_ing wrote: post #3

One user's stupidity becomes Internet bait for something that's saved so, so much time. I remember playing the backup & restore game when rebuilding my PC, which I just happened to do last night as I received a new SSD. I didn't have to worry about documents and thanks to a separate volume, redownloading my Steam library, either. That was a massive time save. And it didn't have to be OneDrive, it could have been any…

Keeping things in onedrive is fine if you want. What was not fine was moving files there without user informed consent.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by expedition32 »

What I hate about it is that it's turned on automatically.

It's basically just holding your computer for ransom because guess what the 20 gigabyte they give you for free doesn't cut it lmao. Don't call it a backup my SSD is 2 terrabyte and I ain't paying you anything.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by lynndotpy »

close04 wrote: post #6
JohnFen wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OneDrive doesn't always work fine, though. I avoid it like the plague because a OneDrive screwup caused me loss of valuable data. Was it user error? Maybe, maybe not, but that's irrelevant. If it's so easy to make an unrecoverable and catastrophic mistake, it's a tool that's too dangerous to use on the daily.

> If it's so easy to make an unrecoverable and catastrophic mistake, it's a tool that's too dangerous to use on the daily. Shift+Del and rm -rf don't have any guardrails around them. In tech you are surrounded by footguns and bear traps. MS made it that much worse by wrapping these in dark patterns that may change without notice but the logic that "dangerous things should be prohibited" is a perfectly good way to end…

I agree, OneDrive is very similar to `rm -rf`. But I think that is a bad thing for a file sync service to be.

It's worse, because it runs without the users explicit knowledge or consent, and it lacks the implicit guardrails `rm -rf` has (in that most people who use Linux and the terminal are at least literate).

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by thedanbob »

close04 wrote: post #6
JohnFen wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OneDrive doesn't always work fine, though. I avoid it like the plague because a OneDrive screwup caused me loss of valuable data. Was it user error? Maybe, maybe not, but that's irrelevant. If it's so easy to make an unrecoverable and catastrophic mistake, it's a tool that's too dangerous to use on the daily.

> If it's so easy to make an unrecoverable and catastrophic mistake, it's a tool that's too dangerous to use on the daily. Shift+Del and rm -rf don't have any guardrails around them. In tech you are surrounded by footguns and bear traps. MS made it that much worse by wrapping these in dark patterns that may change without notice but the logic that "dangerous things should be prohibited" is a perfectly good way to end…

> MS made it that much worse by wrapping these in dark patterns that may change without notice

> It's truly dangerous if it can and does act against your wishes, interests, and reasonable expectations.

Do you really not consider the first to be an example of the second?

> Shift+Del and rm -rf don't have any guardrails around them.

Shift+Del asks for confirmation. I would expect OneDrive to do at least that much before deleting files off the local machine, even if they're recoverable.

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