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How wolves became dogs

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Re: How wolves became dogs

#11
It's common in fur farms that they breed the animals that are most friendly to humans, and in only a few generations those animals behave like very friendly pets, and killing them becomes more difficult.

Re: How wolves became dogs

#12
I am rather surprised the article does not mention the shared hunting technique of pursuing prey until exhaustion as a possible link.

Many hunter gather tribes apparently employed this technique and it can still be found today in Africa with the San people.

Sharing food or stealing wolf puppies were probably part of the domestication but was this because humans possibly hunted alongside wolves? Humans possibly being capable of pursuing for longer distances due to better body temperature control through sweating while wolves being better at tracking.

At least that would be my take.

Re: How wolves became dogs

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post #9

It's clear that human companionship has shaped wolves into dogs. A weird, perhaps silly question I've had for a while is: how have wolves shaped humans? Has human society in any way been affected by the structure of wolf packs? Did hairless monkeys form stronger tribes because of it? I don't believe for a second that this deep interspecies friendship has been one-sided and hasn't brought psychological if not physical…

I read somewhere that he could have change human sleep. Human can have a deeper sleep knowing a guard will alert of danger.

Re: How wolves became dogs

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post #11

It's common in fur farms that they breed the animals that are most friendly to humans, and in only a few generations those animals behave like very friendly pets, and killing them becomes more difficult.

huh so that's a way that it's adaptive for the animals

Re: How wolves became dogs

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post #9

It's clear that human companionship has shaped wolves into dogs. A weird, perhaps silly question I've had for a while is: how have wolves shaped humans? Has human society in any way been affected by the structure of wolf packs? Did hairless monkeys form stronger tribes because of it? I don't believe for a second that this deep interspecies friendship has been one-sided and hasn't brought psychological if not physical…

It's hard to imagine how it could not have driven human evolution as well.

Re: How wolves became dogs

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>> “The only, absolute and best friend a man has, in this selfish world, the only one that will not betray or deny him, is his dog.”

Well, this is far from absolute, isn't it? :) There's a fair number of vicious attacks of a dog on his owner. Oftentimes pitbulls (are they even dogs or rather "creatures"?!), but other breeds do it too. So ... nothing is absolute :P

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