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ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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> the agency has greenlighted a contract for a tool that can scan subjects’ irises Where does the initial iris data come from? Is this actually collected now?

One likely source: https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/17/sam-altmans-worldcoin-beco...

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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When China did this, this was seen as a terrible violation of rights.... Now that we do this hundreds of times a day, it has become routine.

>"When China did this, this was seen as a terrible violation of rights.... Now that we do this hundreds of times a day, it has become routine."

Normally questions like this would be labeled as whataboutism, false equivalence etc. One rule for thee, another one for me.

Personally I think we (The West) are heading to disaster. I really missed older times before 9/11

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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When China did this, this was seen as a terrible violation of rights.... Now that we do this hundreds of times a day, it has become routine.

This is still not fully supported by law. It is becoming normalized indeed, especially by the current admin. Let's hope this is not going to become widely used or that it doesn't stay permanently, eg. it gets at least restricted to some type of crime by future administrations.

Law is expensive.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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> the agency has greenlighted a contract for a tool that can scan subjects’ irises Where does the initial iris data come from? Is this actually collected now?

Probably from the airport scanners and cameras I see everyone gleefully sticking their faces in. A savings of several minutes per flight!

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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When China did this, this was seen as a terrible violation of rights.... Now that we do this hundreds of times a day, it has become routine.

China is already doing abominable things; how people react to additional surveillance is always related to what the state is actually doing with that information.

So a system that supports the abduction of polital rivals (an actual human rights violation) is not the same as a system that supports the lawful arrest of someone breaking a law that's accepted as part of a democracy.

I also think the scale of investment plays a part, the investment in surveillance in China is absurd. Its a significant number of people (per capita) that do nothing but monitor people. These new systems are rather cheap; so much so that they feel a whole lot more inevitable.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is still not fully supported by law. It is becoming normalized indeed, especially by the current admin. Let's hope this is not going to become widely used or that it doesn't stay permanently, eg. it gets at least restricted to some type of crime by future administrations.

Not supported by law where? I’m unaware of any legal proscription of this practice in the USA, and the Journal article makes no such claims, either. (IAAL but this is not my primary field of expertise, and this is not legal advice.)

Indeed.

And the latest admin is only a string in the ever increasing use of such tech.

It should be illegal, but people are deluded if they think it started here.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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When China did this, this was seen as a terrible violation of rights.... Now that we do this hundreds of times a day, it has become routine.

China is already doing abominable things; how people react to additional surveillance is always related to what the state is actually doing with that information. So a system that supports the abduction of polital rivals (an actual human rights violation) is not the same as a system that supports the lawful arrest of someone breaking a law that's accepted as part of a democracy. I also think the scale of investment p…

In both systems the law is being carefully followed to support inhumane goals
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