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Dilbert creator Scott Adams doesn't expect to live much longer
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Re: Dilbert creator Scott Adams doesn't expect to live much longer
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's really not any better at all. The second statement is still overt racism, just with ornamentation.
You're skipping steps. Adam's was reacting to a poll where a majority of black americans took a stance against saying "it's OK to be white." How is that not a red flag for "hate" against another racial group?
The phrase "it's ok to be white" has implicature (by maxim of relevance) and associations (by how the phrase originated and is used in practice) beyond its literal meaning. You can disagree with making that statement without thinking it's not okay to be white.
Re: Dilbert creator Scott Adams doesn't expect to live much longer
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Re: Dilbert creator Scott Adams doesn't expect to live much longer
#14One of many creative people whose work I love and who have some questionable aspects. I'm sorry he's suffering and dying young (IMO). The Dilbert strip was genius.
Re: Dilbert creator Scott Adams doesn't expect to live much longer
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're skipping steps. Adam's was reacting to a poll where a majority of black americans took a stance against saying "it's OK to be white." How is that not a red flag for "hate" against another racial group?
When two pigs wrestle, they're both covered in shit. We don't say "pig #2 should be considered clean because he was only responding to pig #1". It's eminently possible for the original poll and Adams ( and the Mercury News for that matter) to all be fanning the flames of racism.
>possible
Why equivocate to one side and assume the worst from a poll?
By your reasoning, it's "possible" he was correct.
FWIW, Adams conditioned his language with similar reasoning ... See the "If"
Re: Dilbert creator Scott Adams doesn't expect to live much longer
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Scott Adams didn't move from a ghetto, he moved to get away from black people. The presence of black people does not a ghetto make. There are though absolutely places with a large black population which have serious crime issues, but you see similar crime rates in impoverished areas that are predominantly white. Calling it a problem in black America makes it seem like a black problem when that is correlative rather t…
You're switching topics. The prompt was whether blacks leaving black neighborhoods would be labeled racist. The assumption is that although it is categorical racism, nobody would call the act racist. As for crime, it's such a messy topic, though, recheck. I can easily find a lot of studies showing black communities having higher gun homicides, etc. after controlling for wealth (which you disagree with).
On the topic of crime,no, I don't necessarily disagree there. I'm sure your statistical data is correct.
The way societal traumas manifest is tied to the types of trauma each demographic experienced and experiences (including their own self-perceptions of the ways in which they have been victimizes).
Poverty is often a stressor that squeezes out behavior we tend to identify as criminal, but it just a common factor in exposing the wounds.
Depending on the group in poverty, it may manifest as gun violence, physical violence without guns, domestic violence, theft, stimulant abuse, opiate abuse, and a myriad of other things.
i.e. if your cultural wound is to feel powerless, a gun may make you feel powerful; in charge.
If the wound is anxiety, you might choose to numb out.
Controlling for wealth only gets you so far because it is a single dimension.
Re: Dilbert creator Scott Adams doesn't expect to live much longer
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're skipping steps. Adam's was reacting to a poll where a majority of black americans took a stance against saying "it's OK to be white." How is that not a red flag for "hate" against another racial group?
The phrase "it's ok to be white" has implicature (by maxim of relevance) and associations (by how the phrase originated and is used in practice) beyond its literal meaning. You can disagree with making that statement without thinking it's not okay to be white.
>used in practice
This has been debunked.
If it was co-opted, then why did 49% of blacks take a neutral to supportive view of the phrase in the poll?
Explain that.
Re: Dilbert creator Scott Adams doesn't expect to live much longer
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Scott Adams didn't move from a ghetto, he moved to get away from black people. The presence of black people does not a ghetto make. There are though absolutely places with a large black population which have serious crime issues, but you see similar crime rates in impoverished areas that are predominantly white. Calling it a problem in black America makes it seem like a black problem when that is correlative rather t…
You're switching topics. The prompt was whether blacks leaving black neighborhoods would be labeled racist. The assumption is that although it is categorical racism, nobody would call the act racist. As for crime, it's such a messy topic, though, recheck. I can easily find a lot of studies showing black communities having higher gun homicides, etc. after controlling for wealth (which you disagree with).
(making two replies to separate topics) ... So as for switching topics... maybe? I meant that the comparison of black people moving from a ghetto isn't a good comparison just because they're literally moving away from a black community. They're not moving away from blackness, they're escaping a physical location tied to all kinds of negative risks.
I think I would call the act racist because what makes it racist is tied to intent. But one could argue otherwise I suppose. That's just my take.
Re: Dilbert creator Scott Adams doesn't expect to live much longer
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
When two pigs wrestle, they're both covered in shit. We don't say "pig #2 should be considered clean because he was only responding to pig #1". It's eminently possible for the original poll and Adams ( and the Mercury News for that matter) to all be fanning the flames of racism.
>possible Why equivocate to one side and assume the worst from a poll? By your reasoning, it's "possible" he was correct. FWIW, Adams conditioned his language with similar reasoning ... See the "If"
I said "possible" because I don't feel like signing myself up to wade through pig shit to finely arbitrate who is over the line where.
Re: Dilbert creator Scott Adams doesn't expect to live much longer
#20On the off-chance he ever sees this, I am grateful to him as the vector through which I acquired the mental model that systems beat goals (the key to many types of success is consistently repeated action — the activity, not the lagging indicator of results). (Book: How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big.)