In Belgium, our Minister of Defence talks about buying services from Palantir, and wants to let Oracle build a cloud for the Defence department. He even dares to say that this will result in our own Sovereign Data Streams [1]. I can imagine this is a guy that will have not a single issue sharing the requested data with the US Government, even in the face of the recent hostility of the US towards the EU.
US Government demands access to European police databases and biometrics [video]
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#12Wait, so they want unrestricted access to all databases or only access the entries for those that travel to the US?
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#13So .. is this reciprocal or just a demand?
Re: US Government demands access to European police databases and biometrics [video]
#14Maybe we should give it to them, and they will all be redacted
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#15This is for the visa-free travel program (VWP). The US wants to check whether people who show up for vacation without a visa have a criminal record.
If European countries don't want to grant access that's their right, but it's not at all an unreasonable thing for the US to want access to, if the data exists and is easy to check. If someone is a convicted sex trafficker or drug dealer or whatever, I'm fully in favor of not letting them into the country.
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#1610 years ago this wouldn’t have been a big deal but don’t think the US in its current form should be given access
Mate, 10 years ago I would have raged about this ... and I'm ready to rage now.
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#17This is for the visa-free travel program (VWP). The US wants to check whether people who show up for vacation without a visa have a criminal record. If European countries don't want to grant access that's their right, but it's not at all an unreasonable thing for the US to want access to, if the data exists and is easy to check. If someone is a convicted sex trafficker or drug dealer or whatever, I'm fully in favor o…
"The US" is an ever-changing collection of millions of people. Each with their own individual capacities to do good and bad and everything in between.
When you create systems that are easy to abuse, some of the people in the system will abuse the system.
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How does this have anything to do with freedom or lack thereof? If foreign countries want to participate in the travel screening program for visa-free travel then they have to provide certain data. This is nothing new. Countries can opt out of this program and then individual travelers will have to apply for visas in order to enter the USA.
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#19This is for the visa-free travel program (VWP). The US wants to check whether people who show up for vacation without a visa have a criminal record. If European countries don't want to grant access that's their right, but it's not at all an unreasonable thing for the US to want access to, if the data exists and is easy to check. If someone is a convicted sex trafficker or drug dealer or whatever, I'm fully in favor o…
> The US wants to check whether people who show up for vacation without a visa have a criminal record ... it's not at all an unreasonable thing for the US to want access to
It might not be an unreasonable request for a gov with a long history of abiding to agreements - and w/o a long history of misusing data for the benefit of Gov & gov partners.
Which means it is a fully unreasonable request by the US Gov (of any administration).
But a request by a US Gov
that gifts its citizens' most sensitive data
to one of the world's least ethical data brokers
so that vulnerable people can be mistreated in bulk?
Re: US Government demands access to European police databases and biometrics [video]
#20This is for the visa-free travel program (VWP). The US wants to check whether people who show up for vacation without a visa have a criminal record. If European countries don't want to grant access that's their right, but it's not at all an unreasonable thing for the US to want access to, if the data exists and is easy to check. If someone is a convicted sex trafficker or drug dealer or whatever, I'm fully in favor o…
> The US wants to check whether people who show up for vacation without a visa have a criminal record.
Surprisingly, (at least some) European countries will tell you directly whether someone has a specific criminal record (given that someone's consent.)
If that's what the US wanted, then that could be given directly. But that's not what the US is asking for.