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What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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Re: What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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What folks like Fukuyama don't get is that this situation was predicted in the 1960-1970 time frame and looking back seems fated, inevitable. 1962 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Image:_A_Guide_to_Pseudo-e... predicts that television performers will eventually overtake and outclass conventional politicians 1964 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understanding_Media Marshall McLuhan predicts that 'television' will displa…

> The WWW seemed to take over so fast because it was actually delayed ten years and the technology to realize it had been sitting around latent and underutilized. Not so sure about this point: IIRC modem development was going on in a big way during the initial growth phase of the WWW? Thanks for the pointer to "Legitimation Crisis"; ' a conflict between "expertise required to make decisions concerning complex science…

Update: word that means both welfare and loyalty?

Gemini offers https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%A0%95#:~:text=After%20fig...

And

https://aims.education/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/amanah.jpg...

Re: What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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> The WWW seemed to take over so fast because it was actually delayed ten years and the technology to realize it had been sitting around latent and underutilized. Not so sure about this point: IIRC modem development was going on in a big way during the initial growth phase of the WWW? Thanks for the pointer to "Legitimation Crisis"; ' a conflict between "expertise required to make decisions concerning complex science…

Update: word that means both welfare and loyalty? Gemini offers https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%A0%95#:~:text=After%20fig... And https://aims.education/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/amanah.jpg...

This is an excellent game. Anything better in hanzi than 仁? (if that character be "2" with a "person" radical, it would even wear its symbolism up front)

[oh, wait, according to LC the W and L are supposed to be different legs of an antisymmetric vertical, not a symmetric horizontal, relationship. So that's probably not appropriate at all?]

Re: H&A, I guess we could update GKC: "The Enlightenment ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried."

We all love LLMs; would their advice be even more likely to be followed if there was a hardware device to issue smoke ("bells and smells") alongside their pronouncements? https://www.ancientsculpturegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2...

Re: What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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> The WWW seemed to take over so fast because it was actually delayed ten years and the technology to realize it had been sitting around latent and underutilized. Not so sure about this point: IIRC modem development was going on in a big way during the initial growth phase of the WWW? Thanks for the pointer to "Legitimation Crisis"; ' a conflict between "expertise required to make decisions concerning complex science…

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Legitimation-crisis-%E... https://archive.ph/2025.12.29-080655/https://www.independent... ("Taxes & Loyalty") Does it get more anarchic with age? https://www.rsm.global/switzerland/en/service/tax-and-legal/... Think about the "legitimation crisis" through the narcissism lens? Radio (and somewhat WWW up till fiber-era postMaBell) suffered no "legitimation crisis" because it is non…

(I was once chatting with a swiss lawyer, and asked if he were familiar with the concept of "venue shopping". He pointed out the 26 cantons[0] and asked if he needed to proceed any further?)

("Welfare & Steering": JH's 1973 "relative success of the welfare-state compromise" may be a bit dated? I get the impression that ever since 1980, and distinctly accelerating since 1992, the Old Country's politics has, on average, been reducing both outputs: welfare and steering)

For CH, I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjlT4BME2aE and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgYJ5V2HYy4 captured the difference in vibe well. (one detail SwissBloke didn't go into the weeds on: the army asks dozens of people to leave each year, on grounds largely ranging from far left extremism through fundamentalist islamic extremism to far right extremism, and a consequence of that is that one has to return one's service rifle. Part of having a hunting license[1] is being a member of a hunting club, and presumably they too will kick you out should you start to seem too crazy to associate with)

[0] it'd be a bit more difficult to game, but as far as gun ownership by foreigners is concerned, it's max(home country, CH), so there could be up to 195 potential venues involved, and I have the distinct impression that, having come from the States, I would have only hit the limit at local[2] law.

[1] another example of difference in vibe: in the US, folks complain bitterly if the exam for a hunting license takes more than 1 day; in my old part of CH, the process took 2 years, involving classroom time, community service, and practical, written, and oral tests.

[2] the cantonal police got a call about an old nutter in my first few years here. I was impressed, because apparently they just went out, talked with him, and left him all his legal weaponry, but took the full auto weapons, grenades, and other explosives with them when they left. I imagine in the Old Country that kind of visit might've been closer to a Waco?

Reflection: there's the societal vibe difference, and then there's not having an expansively interpreted 2A. Our constitution dates all the way back to 1999, because we believe in cleaning up the legacy cruft.

Re: What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Legitimation-crisis-%E... https://archive.ph/2025.12.29-080655/https://www.independent... ("Taxes & Loyalty") Does it get more anarchic with age? https://www.rsm.global/switzerland/en/service/tax-and-legal/... Think about the "legitimation crisis" through the narcissism lens? Radio (and somewhat WWW up till fiber-era postMaBell) suffered no "legitimation crisis" because it is non…

(I was once chatting with a swiss lawyer, and asked if he were familiar with the concept of "venue shopping". He pointed out the 26 cantons[0] and asked if he needed to proceed any further?) ("Welfare & Steering": JH's 1973 "relative success of the welfare-state compromise" may be a bit dated? I get the impression that ever since 1980, and distinctly accelerating since 1992, the Old Country's politics has, on average…

Moore on reducing welfare and steering: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZj7bq...

Re: What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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> The WWW seemed to take over so fast because it was actually delayed ten years and the technology to realize it had been sitting around latent and underutilized. Not so sure about this point: IIRC modem development was going on in a big way during the initial growth phase of the WWW? Thanks for the pointer to "Legitimation Crisis"; ' a conflict between "expertise required to make decisions concerning complex science…

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Legitimation-crisis-%E... https://archive.ph/2025.12.29-080655/https://www.independent... ("Taxes & Loyalty") Does it get more anarchic with age? https://www.rsm.global/switzerland/en/service/tax-and-legal/... Think about the "legitimation crisis" through the narcissism lens? Radio (and somewhat WWW up till fiber-era postMaBell) suffered no "legitimation crisis" because it is non…

Linebarger on "legitimation crises" and their alternatives (in the context of ending hot wars): https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48612/48612-h/48612-h.htm#:~...

Re: What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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> The WWW seemed to take over so fast because it was actually delayed ten years and the technology to realize it had been sitting around latent and underutilized. Not so sure about this point: IIRC modem development was going on in a big way during the initial growth phase of the WWW? Thanks for the pointer to "Legitimation Crisis"; ' a conflict between "expertise required to make decisions concerning complex science…

Update: word that means both welfare and loyalty? Gemini offers https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%A0%95#:~:text=After%20fig... And https://aims.education/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/amanah.jpg...

"Google AI Mode" suggests "allegiance" as an english word, which in its past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_(feudal) referred to a bond along which welfare flowed in one direction and loyalty in the other.

Re: What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Legitimation-crisis-%E... https://archive.ph/2025.12.29-080655/https://www.independent... ("Taxes & Loyalty") Does it get more anarchic with age? https://www.rsm.global/switzerland/en/service/tax-and-legal/... Think about the "legitimation crisis" through the narcissism lens? Radio (and somewhat WWW up till fiber-era postMaBell) suffered no "legitimation crisis" because it is non…

Linebarger on "legitimation crises" and their alternatives (in the context of ending hot wars): https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48612/48612-h/48612-h.htm#:~...

Ah wonder if the confederate train was meant to evoke Germany's rail-themed legitimation crisis (getting the hot war rolling)

Re: What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Legitimation-crisis-%E... https://archive.ph/2025.12.29-080655/https://www.independent... ("Taxes & Loyalty") Does it get more anarchic with age? https://www.rsm.global/switzerland/en/service/tax-and-legal/... Think about the "legitimation crisis" through the narcissism lens? Radio (and somewhat WWW up till fiber-era postMaBell) suffered no "legitimation crisis" because it is non…

(I was once chatting with a swiss lawyer, and asked if he were familiar with the concept of "venue shopping". He pointed out the 26 cantons[0] and asked if he needed to proceed any further?) ("Welfare & Steering": JH's 1973 "relative success of the welfare-state compromise" may be a bit dated? I get the impression that ever since 1980, and distinctly accelerating since 1992, the Old Country's politics has, on average…

I wonder how much [theory vs practice] of CH policy moves the average vibe around guns towards an Aristotelian mean (compared to the US)

It's common to compare shooting at a range to meditation?

Re: What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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Update: word that means both welfare and loyalty? Gemini offers https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%A0%95#:~:text=After%20fig... And https://aims.education/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/amanah.jpg...

This is an excellent game. Anything better in hanzi than 仁? (if that character be "2" with a "person" radical, it would even wear its symbolism up front) [oh, wait, according to LC the W and L are supposed to be different legs of an antisymmetric vertical, not a symmetric horizontal, relationship. So that's probably not appropriate at all?] Re: H&A, I guess we could update GKC: " The Enlightenment ideal has not been…

Fwiw i thought the (anti)symmetry behind the German "pun" feels kind of forced [in a Buxton sense maybe?] Only the [very] modern Korean examples passed my intuition test. Example 2 was certainly ironic, but the idea (ex3) of businesses being loyal to the customer comes closest to the (less ironic) vibe I was looking for. Noted also the level of emotionality compared to the others (including "amanah"?)

https://m.sohu.com/a/234156713_100184887/?pvid=000115_3w_a

The cross does not seem standard; urex "ren" (emotional, love--) is usually juxtaposed with "yi" (rationalistic, but more emotional than "solidarity"?) ditto for the other 2 arms.

Btw 義理 was the (rationalising?) Japanese example that ai mode returned to me.

"Xin"/"trustworthiness"/"amanah" seem to be comparable in "emo-rationality" (slightly more centred than "treue")-- to ask LLMs later)

PS- I tend to view/use LLMs as a realtime debugger for social media, not a therapist (yet). Debugger hardware (moistware? Miasmaware?) is another rabbit hole. :)

What is that painting? A torah allegory? (Sorry don't want to rabbit hole for a couple of days :)

PPS- will ask LLM on how to interest you in a Buxton-GKC-Kahneman/Tversky connection :))

Re: What's causing populism around the world? It's the Internet Stupid (Fukuyama)

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This is an excellent game. Anything better in hanzi than 仁? (if that character be "2" with a "person" radical, it would even wear its symbolism up front) [oh, wait, according to LC the W and L are supposed to be different legs of an antisymmetric vertical, not a symmetric horizontal, relationship. So that's probably not appropriate at all?] Re: H&A, I guess we could update GKC: " The Enlightenment ideal has not been…

Fwiw i thought the (anti)symmetry behind the German "pun" feels kind of forced [in a Buxton sense maybe?] Only the [very] modern Korean examples passed my intuition test. Example 2 was certainly ironic, but the idea (ex3) of businesses being loyal to the customer comes closest to the (less ironic) vibe I was looking for. Noted also the level of emotionality compared to the others (including "amanah"?) https://m.sohu.…

You've mentioned hu, 狐; will it summon our resident 狐憑き?

The painting is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythia#/media/File:John_Collie... (my inspiration for https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39863255 )

PS. already interested, no need to bother the tensors!

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