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Steve wants us to make the Macintosh boot faster

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Re: Steve wants us to make the Macintosh boot faster

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Post by nntwozz »

In the same vein many years later:

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After the original iPad was released, Steve Jobs held a meeting with the MacBook engineering team and demonstrated the difference in wake speed.

He woke up a current MacBook (with an Intel chip), which took a few seconds.

He then instantly woke up the iPad (with an Apple A-series chip) by pressing the home/power button on and off rapidly.

Jobs told the team, "I want you to make this" (pointing to the MacBook) "like this" (pointing to the iPad), and then walked out of the room.

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This no longer exists at Apple.

Re: Steve wants us to make the Macintosh boot faster

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Post by JKCalhoun »

I like this story about Jobs because it also points out what a bullshitter he appears to have been.

These engineers aren't ignorant—I'm sure they saw the disconnect between the number of accumulated seconds saved and actual human lives somehow being saved. Somehow Jobs thought he could pull one over on them though with this "logic", ha ha.

Re: Steve wants us to make the Macintosh boot faster

#13

Post by santoshalper »

wiseowise wrote: post #10
embedding-shape wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But does it matter? Eventually a bean counter will be in charge of the legacy you built up with this painstakingly acquired good UX and high quality, and take less than a decade to make most of what you spent your life fighting, the new reality.

Mac is still more than fast enough and good enough than Windows, so it matters.

Enjoy your tacky, Vista-esque, liquid glass.

Re: Steve wants us to make the Macintosh boot faster

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Post by CharlesW »

nntwozz wrote: post #11

In the same vein many years later: -- After the original iPad was released, Steve Jobs held a meeting with the MacBook engineering team and demonstrated the difference in wake speed. He woke up a current MacBook (with an Intel chip), which took a few seconds. He then instantly woke up the iPad (with an Apple A-series chip) by pressing the home/power button on and off rapidly. Jobs told the team, "I want you to make t…

"Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world. Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves. All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people." — George Bernard Shaw

Re: Steve wants us to make the Macintosh boot faster

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Post by santoshalper »

nntwozz wrote: post #11

In the same vein many years later: -- After the original iPad was released, Steve Jobs held a meeting with the MacBook engineering team and demonstrated the difference in wake speed. He woke up a current MacBook (with an Intel chip), which took a few seconds. He then instantly woke up the iPad (with an Apple A-series chip) by pressing the home/power button on and off rapidly. Jobs told the team, "I want you to make t…

It also didn't always work. At no point did the MacBook boot nearly as instantly as an iPad. That said, Jobs' obsession with UX was a powerful driving force and your point stands.

Re: Steve wants us to make the Macintosh boot faster

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Post by spankibalt »

> "If there's one thing that I think was revolutionary about Jobs, it was his obsession with quality and user experience."

You're talking about specific user experiences based on Jobs's dogmas. There's also absolutely nothing revolutionary about quality and user experience for that existed long before Steve Jobs "invented" it. ;)

> "A lot of the reason people are hating on windows now-a-days is because "fast enough" has become the name of the game for UX."

Apple is good enough married to a closed-off eco system. Almost like 16-bit home computers back in the day, but worse. The off-the-rack experience, just with modern enshittification.

PCs can be good enough, too. But here I have the option for something made-to-wear or even bespoke. That includes the many-flavored Windows; fast enough UX is an almost negligible part of the equation.

Re: Steve wants us to make the Macintosh boot faster

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Post by santoshalper »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #12

I like this story about Jobs because it also points out what a bullshitter he appears to have been. These engineers aren't ignorant—I'm sure they saw the disconnect between the number of accumulated seconds saved and actual human lives somehow being saved. Somehow Jobs thought he could pull one over on them though with this "logic", ha ha.

Bullshitting, inspiring, and marketing are just three different words for the same thing.

Re: Steve wants us to make the Macintosh boot faster

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Post by JKCalhoun »

santoshalper wrote: post #17
JKCalhoun wrote: post #12

I like this story about Jobs because it also points out what a bullshitter he appears to have been. These engineers aren't ignorant—I'm sure they saw the disconnect between the number of accumulated seconds saved and actual human lives somehow being saved. Somehow Jobs thought he could pull one over on them though with this "logic", ha ha.

Bullshitting, inspiring, and marketing are just three different words for the same thing.

A couple of those can be honest though?
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