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Re: Stop Slopware

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> if you’re doing this for your own learning: you will learn better without AI . I'm certain that's not true. AI is the single biggest gift we could possible give to people who are learning to program - it's shaved that learning curve down to a point where you don't need to carve out six months of your life just to get to a point where you can build something small and useful that works. AI only hurts learning if you…

You need to choose another field if it takes you 6 months to hello world

Re: Stop Slopware

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> if you’re doing this for your own learning: you will learn better without AI.

This is not the distinction I would want to tell newcomers. AI is extremely good for finding out what the most common practices are for all kinds of situations. That's a powerful learning tool. Besides, learning how to use a tool well (one that we can expect professionals to use) is part of learning.

Now most common practices and best practices are two different things. They are often the same, but not always. That's the major caveat for many fields, but if you can keep it in mind, you're going to do OK.

Re: Stop Slopware

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> if you’re doing this for your own learning: you will learn better without AI . I'm certain that's not true. AI is the single biggest gift we could possible give to people who are learning to program - it's shaved that learning curve down to a point where you don't need to carve out six months of your life just to get to a point where you can build something small and useful that works. AI only hurts learning if you…

I think it's a pretty small generosity to implicitly extend what the author is saying to "you will learn better without generating your code". I don't know if that's what they meant, but AI is certainly a good tool for learning how things work and seeing examples (if you don't blindly trust everything it says and use other sources too).

Re: Stop Slopware

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> if you’re doing this for your own learning: you will learn better without AI . I'm certain that's not true. AI is the single biggest gift we could possible give to people who are learning to program - it's shaved that learning curve down to a point where you don't need to carve out six months of your life just to get to a point where you can build something small and useful that works. AI only hurts learning if you…

You need to choose another field if it takes you 6 months to hello world

I deliberately didn't say "hello world", I said "build something small that works" - I'm editing my post now to add the words "and useful".

Re: Stop Slopware

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As a practitioner I also inherently believe in well written software but as a lifelong learner, things change, and evolve. There is absolutely no reason why software today has to be written like software of yesterday.

There is no need to be so prescriptive about how software is made. In the end the best will win on the merits. The bad software will die under its own weight with no think pieces necessary.

On the other hand, code might be becoming more like clay than like LEGO bricks. The sculptor is not minding each granule.

We don't know yet if there's long term merit in this new way of crafting software and telling people not to try it both won't work, and honestly looks like old people yelling at clouds.

Re: Stop Slopware

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post #6

> if you’re doing this for your own learning: you will learn better without AI . I'm certain that's not true. AI is the single biggest gift we could possible give to people who are learning to program - it's shaved that learning curve down to a point where you don't need to carve out six months of your life just to get to a point where you can build something small and useful that works. AI only hurts learning if you…

You need to choose another field if it takes you 6 months to hello world

Don't speak like this to people. Also, don't put words in people's mouths (they didn't say "hello world").
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