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ELF Crimes: Program Interpreter Fun

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Re: ELF Crimes: Program Interpreter Fun

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It’s a terrible shame Linux is still a 1970s program. Plan 9’s debugger Acid can attach to a running kernel on a remote machine and debug it.

> It’s a terrible shame Linux is still a 1970s program. This is a needlessly snide and inaccurate characterization. > Plan 9’s debugger Acid can attach to a running kernel on a remote machine and debug it. KGDB over Ethernet does the same on Linux.

Emulating a serial terminal emulating a teletypewriter emulating a punch card system.

Re: ELF Crimes: Program Interpreter Fun

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> It’s a terrible shame Linux is still a 1970s program. This is a needlessly snide and inaccurate characterization. > Plan 9’s debugger Acid can attach to a running kernel on a remote machine and debug it. KGDB over Ethernet does the same on Linux.

Emulating a serial terminal emulating a teletypewriter emulating a punch card system.

If it works what do I care?

Re: ELF Crimes: Program Interpreter Fun

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Emulating a serial terminal emulating a teletypewriter emulating a punch card system.

If it works what do I care?

Because making it work is burdensome and writing programs that interact with it even more so.

I'm guessing you've never tried to write a terminal rendering program.

The hoops you hav to jump through to get vi to switch into a blank screen and then drop back and re-render your previous terminal.

Behaviour differences on some terminals when you run man and the previous output is simply cleared or the man page is printed and scrolled.

There are piles of hacks.

Re: ELF Crimes: Program Interpreter Fun

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If it works what do I care?

Because making it work is burdensome and writing programs that interact with it even more so. I'm guessing you've never tried to write a terminal rendering program. The hoops you hav to jump through to get vi to switch into a blank screen and then drop back and re-render your previous terminal. Behaviour differences on some terminals when you run man and the previous output is simply cleared or the man page is printe…

Ok, but what does this have to do with kernel debugging?

Re: ELF Crimes: Program Interpreter Fun

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Because making it work is burdensome and writing programs that interact with it even more so. I'm guessing you've never tried to write a terminal rendering program. The hoops you hav to jump through to get vi to switch into a blank screen and then drop back and re-render your previous terminal. Behaviour differences on some terminals when you run man and the previous output is simply cleared or the man page is printe…

Ok, but what does this have to do with kernel debugging?

I know right, the price of cheese is quite volatile
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