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Thin desires are eating life

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Re: Thin desires are eating life

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Very nicely written. I've been slowly removing thin desires from my life. It's hard to do at first, but what I've noticed is once I am free from them, I do not miss them at all. Almost like I was under a spell.

I second this. Almost like I was under a spell.

Re: Thin desires are eating life

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Sigh. I get it. I just don’t agree with it but fair point.

Re: Thin desires are eating life

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Sigh. I get it. I just don’t agree with it but fair point.

Sure. Remember I have to read this stuff all day ;)

Re: Thin desires are eating life

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Us software engineers assume value comes from serving more people, faster, with less friction. But many of the things that actually make life feel coherent such as learning a craft, maintaining friendships and building tools for one person, only work because they’re slow and specific.

Tech doesn't give us the wrong desires but the easier versions of the right ones, and those end up hollow.

Re: Thin desires are eating life

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  > A thick desire is one that changes you in the process of pursuing it.
  >
  > A thin desire is one that doesn't.
  >
  > ...
  >
  > The person who checks their notifications is [a thin desire],
  > afterward, exactly the same person who wanted to check their
  > notifications five minutes ago.
[I added the brackets]

The author, I think, would label the desire for sugary drinks as a thin desire. However, that desire tends towards unfavorable consequences: mood swings, poor dental hygiene, weight gain. Thus it undermines one's body. This "changes you" -- for the worse, yielding a contradiction. If the preceding logical analysis is sound, the article's terms or argument are flawed.

Re: Thin desires are eating life

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I find it ironic that this perspective is being shared in such a "thin" way.

There are some insightful observations but the whole thick/thin perspective just doesn't resonate with me. As an old man (shakes fist at clouds), we have stopped prioritizing people. It is all about building and maintaining relationships and we've gotten lazy. And maintaining relationships is a lot of work and without it we do feel more isolated. So we try to fill that void with things that don't require effort like buying crap we don't need on Amazon and chasing likes on social media. We aren't happy so we try to be busy so we don't notice so much.

We saw a bit of a teeny correction during covid when people starting going outdoors and baking bread and cooking home cooked meals. But now everyone is back to working from home in their pajamas and tell themselves how happy they are with all the time they save not driving but skip over the lack of adult interaction (both good and bad).

But the problem is easily solved for each of us by things as simple as hobbies and volunteering and organizations (church, civic, etc.) Personally, I design board games and have friends over to test them and go to board game conferences. We've built a group that still test and communicate online but are happiest when we get to hang out and play games and go for dinner. There is no shortage of these opportunities but you have to get off the couch and join in. It is a place where you will make new friends and find happiness but you have to decide it is worth it.

Re: Thin desires are eating life

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post #8

Very nicely written. I've been slowly removing thin desires from my life. It's hard to do at first, but what I've noticed is once I am free from them, I do not miss them at all. Almost like I was under a spell.

What are some examples of thin desires you've removed?
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