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I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by petesergeant »

n4r9 wrote: post #4
wccrawford wrote: post #2

It's the curse of writing well. ChatGPT is designed to write well, and so everyone who does that is accused of being AI. I just saw someone today that multiple people accused of using ChatGPT, but their post was one solid block of text and had multiple grammar errors. But they used something similar to the way ChatGPT speaks, so they got accused of it and the accusers got massive upvotes.

This may be true. I personally didn't get any hint of LLM usage from their writing. Even where they use em-dashes it's for stuff like this: > there is - in my observational opinion - a rather dark and insidious slant to it That feels too authentic and personal to be any of the current generation of LLMs.

ChatGPT would have used an actual em dash instead of a hyphen

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by throwaway613745 »

elcapitan wrote: post #9

Ironically, mistakes and idiosyncrasies are becoming a sign of authenticity and trustworthiness, while polish and quality signal the opposite. Earlier today I stumbled upon a blog post that started with a sentence that was obviously written by someone with a slavic background (most writers from other language families create certain grammatical patterns when writing in another language, e.g. German is also quite typi…

Maybe for writing, but in digital art circles if anyone notices a mistake in your lines or perspective or any kind of technical error you will get the anti-AI cancel mob after you even if you didn’t use generative AI at all.

I would not want to be an artist in the current environment, it’s total chaos.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by Terretta »

Love this, everything about this - I still teach the foundation, 3 columns, roof, of the persuasive essay - except one bit:

Perplexity gauges how predictable a text is. If I start a sentence, "The cat sat on the...", your brain, and the AI, will predict the word "floor."

No. No no no. The next word is "mat"!

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by lencastre »

elcapitan wrote: post #9

Ironically, mistakes and idiosyncrasies are becoming a sign of authenticity and trustworthiness, while polish and quality signal the opposite. Earlier today I stumbled upon a blog post that started with a sentence that was obviously written by someone with a slavic background (most writers from other language families create certain grammatical patterns when writing in another language, e.g. German is also quite typi…

until you ask it write like this, because why use many word when few do trick?

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by embedding-shape »

The internet been the same for a long time, it's just the wording that changed. As someone who apparently thinks differently, the amount of time people just end up saying "Well, you're just a troll, no one actually believes something like that, so whatever" since I started frequenting the internet in the early 2000s is the same as always. But some people try to be trendy and accuse you of using AI for writing the replies instead, but it's the same sentiment.

Besides, of course what people write will sound as LLMs, since LLMs are trained on what we've been writing on the internet... For us who've been lucky and written a lot and are more represented in the dataset, the writings of LLMs will be closer to how we already wrote, but then of course we get the blame for sounding like LLMs, because apparently people don't understand that LLMs were trained on texts written by humans...

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by embedding-shape »

throwaway613745 wrote: post #12
elcapitan wrote: post #9

Ironically, mistakes and idiosyncrasies are becoming a sign of authenticity and trustworthiness, while polish and quality signal the opposite. Earlier today I stumbled upon a blog post that started with a sentence that was obviously written by someone with a slavic background (most writers from other language families create certain grammatical patterns when writing in another language, e.g. German is also quite typi…

Maybe for writing, but in digital art circles if anyone notices a mistake in your lines or perspective or any kind of technical error you will get the anti-AI cancel mob after you even if you didn’t use generative AI at all. I would not want to be an artist in the current environment, it’s total chaos.

I'm an artist in the current environment, it's not total chaos. Ignore what others are doing, do what you want with the tools you have available, and you'll be fine. There are huge echo-chambers on the internet, but once you get out in the real world, things are not as people on the internet paints it out to be.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by sam-cop-vimes »

Terretta wrote: post #13

Love this, everything about this - I still teach the foundation, 3 columns, roof, of the persuasive essay - except one bit: Perplexity gauges how predictable a text is. If I start a sentence, "The cat sat on the...", your brain, and the AI, will predict the word "floor." No. No no no. The next word is "mat"!

ha ha - I had the same thought!

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by nottorp »

lynx97 wrote: post #8

Systemic discrimination, happens all the time. I am blind. I regularily fail the "tell computers and humans apart" test. You imagine, that feels very much like the dehumanisation it is. Big tech couldn't care less. After all, they need to protect themselves against spammers. Much like the guy who was on the HN frontpage just a few days ago, arguing that he is now trashing accessibility because he doesn't want to be w…

> arguing that he is now trashing accessibility because he doesn't want to be web scraped

Interesting, because he failed me too just because I use Firefox. Have you been told about the article or it actually worked with your screen reader software?

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