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Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect

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Re: Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect

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Sony and Nintendo stores are still closed I see lol

Sony and Nintendo only sell games. They don't gate access to banks, investments, health insurance, auto insurance, news, movies, social media, car control apps, appliance apps, grocery stores, e-commerce, etc... That's not to say Sony and Nintendo shouldn't be opened too but their impact is much smaller (game devs) than Apple (nearly all businesses)

The switch eshop has youtube which I would count as social media.

Re: Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect

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JFTC's full 'Mobile Software Competition Act Guidelines' are available here : https://www.jftc.go.jp/file/MSCA_Guidelines_tentative_transl... Curious to see how Apple and Google are going to circumvent this.

How is it different to what Apple’s done in the EU, with allowing for third party app stores there.

Re: Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect

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Nice. Someone is doing something. Apple's app store monopoly together with a 30% commission is a modern form of way-laying.

Meanwhile Google is trying to go the opposite way with mandatory developer registration/verification. In the US we will likely let them. Who needs freedom if there is money to make (and Google is just making a fake security argument.)

It shouldn't be that hard to do with my phone what I want, including accepting the consequences of my actions.

Re: Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect

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I really hope that Japanese developers take advantage of this situation to show off at least some of the creativity that's possible when we're not quite as limited by Apple's restrictions. I don't doubt that from a 'security' point of view, Apple is going to continue to enforce all sorts of things that make it wildly more difficult to use the supercomputer in our pockets than I would like. But nonetheless, perhaps this gives a bit of room to be a little more illustrative.

I know that from time to time people have argued that jailbreaking should have resulted in more creativity if it were going to, but with that tiny, tiny market, it's hard to believe that many developers, relatively speaking, would have been able to go hard at building something custom and impressive. With this larger market, hopefully folks will get the chance to do that now.

Re: Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sony and Nintendo only sell games. They don't gate access to banks, investments, health insurance, auto insurance, news, movies, social media, car control apps, appliance apps, grocery stores, e-commerce, etc... That's not to say Sony and Nintendo shouldn't be opened too but their impact is much smaller (game devs) than Apple (nearly all businesses)

The switch eshop has youtube which I would count as social media.

This does not change that:

- The Switch is primarily a gaming device for entertainment purposes.

- The eShop overwhelmingly focuses on providing games for said entertainment purposes.

- It can be assumed that the overwhelming majority of people do not use the Switch, or expect to use the Switch, for general lifestyle purposes.

(That said, I wish we lived in a world where the eShop wasn't the only way to get digital games on the Switch, but phones have evolved to impact a large segment of the economy in many ways)

Re: Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sony and Nintendo only sell games. They don't gate access to banks, investments, health insurance, auto insurance, news, movies, social media, car control apps, appliance apps, grocery stores, e-commerce, etc... That's not to say Sony and Nintendo shouldn't be opened too but their impact is much smaller (game devs) than Apple (nearly all businesses)

It should be pointed out that they have way less of a monopoly on the market and way more gaming alternatives exist than Apple and Google. Apple, Google. Two app stores that are basically necessary for existing in the modern world with a smartphone, which include apps covering Japanese government services. In the gaming space, you’ve got PlayStation Store, Xbox Store, Nintendo eShop, Steam, Epic Game Store, GOG, a ba…

> include apps covering Japanese government services.

These exist?

Honestly asking, I've never been there myself so my only contact to their government is via social media, and the Japanese people can't stop talking about how you need to go there in person for everything and how absolutely nothing official is digital

Re: Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect

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JFTC's full 'Mobile Software Competition Act Guidelines' are available here : https://www.jftc.go.jp/file/MSCA_Guidelines_tentative_transl... Curious to see how Apple and Google are going to circumvent this.

My admittedly amateur reading of this is that while it does promote competition, it also explicitly allows what Apple is pulling in the EU with its signing/review requirements for non-App Store applications. So no need to circumvent, they still retain control over what code is allowed to run on iPhones, albeit subject to restrictions on what reasoning they're allowed to use to refuse to sign an app.

Re: Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect

#20

how does this interact with Google's push to sign all apps?

It doesn't. The law explicitly allows platform owners to require a verification/vetting process for applications, though it does limit the grounds on which Google is allowed to refuse to sign apps.
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