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Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Not sure how I feel about it being a throwaway device for $100. I get they say you can send it back to be recycled, but this feels like you’re just proactively creating e-waste. Not even an attempt to make a replaceable or chargeable battery? Also they point out oura rings need to be charged every few days, but that’s because they’re constantly chewing through battery monitoring your health stats. I’m willing to bet…

> No charging: The battery lasts for up to years of average use. After the end of its life, send your ring back to us for recycling.

That's a pretty long life, TBF. I appreciate your concerns, though, and do wonder if there was a better middle ground (maybe a micro sterling engine leveraging the heat gradient from my finger to ambient, ha!).

People are buying Fitbit charge6 products today and those probably have an 18 shelf life and cost more.. so maybe it's not totally left field - although the charge6 isn't advertised to fail so soon lol.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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post #4

Not sure how I feel about it being a throwaway device for $100. I get they say you can send it back to be recycled, but this feels like you’re just proactively creating e-waste. Not even an attempt to make a replaceable or chargeable battery? Also they point out oura rings need to be charged every few days, but that’s because they’re constantly chewing through battery monitoring your health stats. I’m willing to bet…

this is a device that would potentially last years though, not months — if you're in the niche of needing something like this you're paying less than $10 a month (maybe as low as $5)... doesn't net out too terribly in exchange for not charging

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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"What kind of battery is inside? Index 01 uses silver-oxide batteries. Why can’t it be recharged? We considered this but decided not to for several reasons: You’d probably lose the charger before the battery runs out! Adding charge circuitry and including a charger would make the product larger and more expensive. You send it back to us to recycle. Wait, it’s single use? Yes. We know this sounds a bit odd, but in thi…

So in a way it is similar to Subscription ?

More like buying a 99$ “12 to 15 hour recording” pack. Also created real tangible waste, I’m failing to see how recycling a bunch (what are they expecting to sell, hundreds-of-thousands order of magnitude?) of 99$ rings after two years will be worth it (how much material, and for what worth, can they really exctract?).

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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> Here’s the best part: the battery lasts for years

I wonder how many years?

> The battery lasts for up to years of average use.

...how many?

> a battery that lasts for years

How many years does the battery last?

> That’s up to 2 years of usage.

Ah.

I guess "2" is the absolute minimum that you could describe as "years".

It's a shame because it does look like an interesting proposition. It might be more compelling if it was "send your ring back to us for recycling - and we'll send you a new one". I doubt the economics would work at this price point though.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Original title: Meet Pebble Index 01 - External Memory For Your Brain

It's a memo recorder in ring form. Neat idea that seems really obvious but somehow I haven't seen it before

Edit: ah. "No charging: The battery lasts for up to years of average use. After the end of its life, send your ring back to us for recycling." Planned obsolescence

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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> since it’s always with you Isn't my watch always with me? Why not use that instead of have some new device?

from the article:

> Initially, we experimented by building this as an app on Pebble, since it has a mic and I’m always wearing one. But, I realized quickly that this was suboptimal - it required me to use my other hand to press the button to start recording (lift-to-wake gestures and wake-words are too unreliable). This was tough to use while bicycling or carrying stuff.

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