The most interesting detail about the whole XKeyscore story is that it was apparently not leaked by Snowden https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/07/nsa_targets_p... https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-evidence-... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/11/second-leake... It is possible that the "second source" and the shadow brokers are one and the same. https://www.electrospaces.net/2017/…
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#12The most interesting detail about the whole XKeyscore story is that it was apparently not leaked by Snowden https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/07/nsa_targets_p... https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-evidence-... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/11/second-leake... It is possible that the "second source" and the shadow brokers are one and the same. https://www.electrospaces.net/2017/…
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#13How relevant is this (and the NSA's general spying capability) in 2025? We hear a lot about local agencies perusing the services of private companies to collect citizens' data in the US, whether that's traffic information, IoT recordings, buying information from FAANG, etc. What's the NSA's position in the current administration? (e.g. we've heard a lot of noise in the past about the FBI and CIA getting the cold shou…
NSA does not have magic tools to break modern encryption.
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#14How relevant is this (and the NSA's general spying capability) in 2025? We hear a lot about local agencies perusing the services of private companies to collect citizens' data in the US, whether that's traffic information, IoT recordings, buying information from FAANG, etc. What's the NSA's position in the current administration? (e.g. we've heard a lot of noise in the past about the FBI and CIA getting the cold shou…
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#15How relevant is this (and the NSA's general spying capability) in 2025? We hear a lot about local agencies perusing the services of private companies to collect citizens' data in the US, whether that's traffic information, IoT recordings, buying information from FAANG, etc. What's the NSA's position in the current administration? (e.g. we've heard a lot of noise in the past about the FBI and CIA getting the cold shou…
You only need to look at a few headline "true crime" cases to see the obvious parallel construction that is being done.
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#16How relevant is this (and the NSA's general spying capability) in 2025? We hear a lot about local agencies perusing the services of private companies to collect citizens' data in the US, whether that's traffic information, IoT recordings, buying information from FAANG, etc. What's the NSA's position in the current administration? (e.g. we've heard a lot of noise in the past about the FBI and CIA getting the cold shou…
NSAs collection capabilities have been greatly degraded. They can no longer read all internet traffic, basically everything is encrypted now. NSA does not have magic tools to break modern encryption.
The NSA has spent no small amount of time in the last decade obviously interfering with NIST and public encryption standards. The obvious reason is they _want_ to have the magic tools to break some modern encryption.
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#17The most interesting detail about the whole XKeyscore story is that it was apparently not leaked by Snowden https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/07/nsa_targets_p... https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-evidence-... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/11/second-leake... It is possible that the "second source" and the shadow brokers are one and the same. https://www.electrospaces.net/2017/…
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
NSAs collection capabilities have been greatly degraded. They can no longer read all internet traffic, basically everything is encrypted now. NSA does not have magic tools to break modern encryption.
So instead of collecting at AT&T Room 631 you now collect at Google Room Whatever. The NSA has spent no small amount of time in the last decade obviously interfering with NIST and public encryption standards. The obvious reason is they _want_ to have the magic tools to break some modern encryption.
Even if true, significantly degraded. Probably not true though, NSA has been very leaky and such a story would be kind of devastating for Google. NSA lacks the legal capability to force Google to do so, the money to bribe Google to do so and also almost certainly lacks the political backing to put one of the biggest US companies in such a position.
I don't doubt for a second that NSA could hack Google (or just bribe employees with appropriate access) and break into specific Gmail accounts if they wanted to. Bulk collection would be far more difficult to implement.
>The NSA has spent no small amount of time in the last decade obviously interfering with NIST and public encryption standards. The obvious reason is they _want_ to have the magic tools to break some modern encryption.
They do try, they just haven't been very successful at it.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
You only need to look at a few headline "true crime" cases to see the obvious parallel construction that is being done.
Could you be more specific? It's really hard to have an useful conversation based on a comment like this, but really easy to have one based on a comment which links to specific cases and perhaps even explains how the obvious parallel construction appears.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/1hlmq3...
The FBI apparently attempted to use this in the Bryan Kohberger case:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/25/us/idaho-murders-bryan-ko...
It's hard to find solid coverage of this because obviously the methods are often hidden and rarely leak out to the press at large. The press also gets confused and thinks that defending our constitutional rights will lead to criminals being acquitted.
If you spend a lot of time watching and studying these cases and how they evolve throughout the courts it becomes obvious that this is likely occurring more than most people realize.