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Re: Django 6

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Post by tcdent »

echelon wrote: post #2

Show of hands for backend web services development - Who uses Django, Rails, or similar full-featured frameworks? Who uses micro-frameworks like Flask? Who uses enterprise Java, Jetty, Dot Net, etc.? Who uses an entirely Javascript stack? Who uses a non-traditional language that has become more web-servicey, like Go, Rust, or Swift? Who uses something so wildly untraditional that it's barely mentioned? OkCupid using…

I started using Django before the official 1.0 release and used it almost exclusively for years on web projects.

Lately I prefer to mix my own tooling and a couple major packages in for backends (FastAPI, SQLAchemy) that are still heavily inspired by patterns I picked up while using Django. I end up with a little more boilerplate, but I also end up with a little more stylistic flexibility.

Re: Django 6

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Post by wg0 »

Can someone remind me how we ended up in the SPA era and why exactly? Was it about not seeing the loading spinner? Or there were more reasons to it?

Re: Django 6

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Post by wg0 »

echelon wrote: post #2

Show of hands for backend web services development - Who uses Django, Rails, or similar full-featured frameworks? Who uses micro-frameworks like Flask? Who uses enterprise Java, Jetty, Dot Net, etc.? Who uses an entirely Javascript stack? Who uses a non-traditional language that has become more web-servicey, like Go, Rust, or Swift? Who uses something so wildly untraditional that it's barely mentioned? OkCupid using…

- Have written Rails and Django both

- Have written SPAs (React/Svelte)

- Have written Go based services

Each has their on pros and cons.

Re: Django 6

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Post by justinator »

echelon wrote: post #8
justinator wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perl, CGI.

Love it! Which version of Perl are you using, and what type of service(s) are you maintaining? Is this older software, or do you use it for new projects too? Have you rolled any sort of framework yourself? What are your thoughts on Raku?

I target 5.10.1 mostly. This is for a project I started in the late 90's. It uses CGI::Application, which is less a framework and more a method lookup table converter of queries (although I built a path info convertor on top of that). It's still maintained, although before Covid, it was my livelihood.

About a quarter of a million lines of code, excluding the libraries I pull in. I'm mostly self-taught, they wouldn't even let me get a minor in Comp Sci, since I didn't have the math background (Needed Calculus, I completeled Algebra 2 in hs). Boneheaded Uni.

Raku: Second-system effect poster boy. Sensationally dysfunctional community. I think Pugs is what was actually really incredible and Audrey is probably one of the most intelligent people in... the World? Up for contention, but top 10.

Re: Django 6

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Post by alberth »

echelon wrote: post #2

Show of hands for backend web services development - Who uses Django, Rails, or similar full-featured frameworks? Who uses micro-frameworks like Flask? Who uses enterprise Java, Jetty, Dot Net, etc.? Who uses an entirely Javascript stack? Who uses a non-traditional language that has become more web-servicey, like Go, Rust, or Swift? Who uses something so wildly untraditional that it's barely mentioned? OkCupid using…

One proxy might be to look at the upvote counts for each of their respective latest release HN posts.

Eg, this post has ~50 (though only posted an hour ago)

Rails 8 had ~550

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41766515

Re: Django 6

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Post by rabbitvictor »

echelon wrote: post #2

Show of hands for backend web services development - Who uses Django, Rails, or similar full-featured frameworks? Who uses micro-frameworks like Flask? Who uses enterprise Java, Jetty, Dot Net, etc.? Who uses an entirely Javascript stack? Who uses a non-traditional language that has become more web-servicey, like Go, Rust, or Swift? Who uses something so wildly untraditional that it's barely mentioned? OkCupid using…

At work, it is mainly Kotlin and Go webservices with some Rust for very specific use cases

Re: Django 6

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Post by bossyTeacher »

echelon wrote: post #2

Show of hands for backend web services development - Who uses Django, Rails, or similar full-featured frameworks? Who uses micro-frameworks like Flask? Who uses enterprise Java, Jetty, Dot Net, etc.? Who uses an entirely Javascript stack? Who uses a non-traditional language that has become more web-servicey, like Go, Rust, or Swift? Who uses something so wildly untraditional that it's barely mentioned? OkCupid using…

Fable (just for the fun of it) and the new one dot net one file web services that resemble flask

Re: Django 6

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Post by ianberdin »

yoavm wrote: post #14
ianberdin wrote: post #6

Thanks to Django. I got into the webdev world so easily. Curious, how come Django started to make major versions instead of 1.*? Can be the decreasing in popularity the reason to make Something to change it?

It didn't - https://www.djangoproject.com/download/#supported-versions

Oh, looks more transparent.
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