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Launch HN: Phind 3 (YC S22) – Every answer is a mini-app

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Re: Launch HN: Phind 3 (YC S22) – Every answer is a mini-app

#11

Application error: a client-side exception has occurred while loading www.phind.com (see the browser console for more information). Getting this error the homepage. In the browser console I am just seeing Content-Security-Policy: (Report-Only policy) The page’s settings would block a script (script-src-elem) at https://www.phind.com/_next/static/chunks/c857e369-746618a9672c8ed0.js?dpl=dpl_4dLj9qrNQMh6evFNeDZbEJjTnT9B…

Interesting -- could you try with a vanilla browser (no extensions or VPN) please? Preferably Chrome or Safari.

It seems to work except when I connect to my work VPN, which is very permissive -- I haven't observed it to break anything else

Re: Launch HN: Phind 3 (YC S22) – Every answer is a mini-app

#12
It's definitely cool and engineering wise close to SOTA given lovable and all of the app generators.

But, assuming you are trying to be in between lovable and google, how are you not going to be steamrolled by google or perplexity etc the moment you get solid traction? Like, if your insight for v3 was that the model should make its own tools, so even less hardcoded, then i just dont see a moat or any vertical direction. What really is the difference?

Re: Launch HN: Phind 3 (YC S22) – Every answer is a mini-app

#14

It's definitely cool and engineering wise close to SOTA given lovable and all of the app generators. But, assuming you are trying to be in between lovable and google, how are you not going to be steamrolled by google or perplexity etc the moment you get solid traction? Like, if your insight for v3 was that the model should make its own tools, so even less hardcoded, then i just dont see a moat or any vertical directi…

Thanks, and great question. The custom Phind models are really key here -- off-the-shelf models (even SOTA models from big labs) are slow and error-prone when it comes to generating full websites on-the-fly.

Our long-term vision is to build a fully personalized internet. For Google this is an innovator's dilemma, as Google currently serves as a portal to the current internet.

Re: Launch HN: Phind 3 (YC S22) – Every answer is a mini-app

#15
post #13

That is really cool! Congrat on the launch! I was surprised not to see a share and embed button. I would expect that could be huge for growth.

Thank you! There is a share button in the upper-right corner of the answer page screen :)

Re: Launch HN: Phind 3 (YC S22) – Every answer is a mini-app

#17
OK, I've had a chance to play with it in earnest.

First: my sense is that for most use cases, this will begin to feel gimmicky rather quickly and that you will do better by specializing rather than positioning yourself next to ChatGPT, which answers my questions without too much additional ceremony.

If you have any diehard users, I suspect they will cluster around very particular use cases, say business users trying to create quick internal tools, users who want to generate a quick app on mobile, scientists that want quick apps to validate data. Focusing on those clusters (your actual ones, not these specific examples) and building something optimized for their use cases seems likelier to be a stronger long term play for you

Secondly, I asked it to prove a theorem, and it gave me a link to a proof. This is fine, since LLM generated math proofs are a bit of a mess, but I was surprised that it didn't offer any visualizations or anything further. I then asked it for numerical experiments that support the conjecture, and it just showed me some very generic code and print statements for a completely different problem, unrelated to what I asked about. Not very compelling

Finally, and least important really: please stop submitting my messages when I hit return/enter! Many of us like to send more complex multi-line queries to LLMs

Good luck

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