Avatar is Pocahontas repainted. Fight me.
I believe the comment I saw, back when the first one came out, was "PocaHalo."
The second one developed its own story much better.
Gundam is just the same as Jane Austen but happens to include giant mech suits
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#12In the end, almost everything has a soap opera in it somewhere. People have a hard time processing stories that don't have a soap opera in them somewhere. For some people it's just impossible. There's really only a minority of people who are interested in stories that have no personal relationship stories in them at all. That's not to say that the parts that aren't soap opera aren't meaningfully different. I disagree…
Here's what's funny. You know what they used to call a book that foregrounded the soap opera elements you're talking about? A novel. That's why Tolstoy called Anna Karenina his first novel. Now, if you go to Wikipedia, War and Peace is also categorized as a novel. What else could you call it? But it's funny to imagine a time when novel was a genre.
What else would one call War and Peace at its time?
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#13Avatar is Pocahontas repainted. Fight me.
I mean, Avatar is a pretty on-the-nose allegory for the decimation of American Indian tribes and western colonization. I don't think this is at all a controversial take.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's what's funny. You know what they used to call a book that foregrounded the soap opera elements you're talking about? A novel. That's why Tolstoy called Anna Karenina his first novel. Now, if you go to Wikipedia, War and Peace is also categorized as a novel. What else could you call it? But it's funny to imagine a time when novel was a genre.
What else would one call War and Peace at its time?
I don't speak Russian, but whatever the Russian word is for "book." Or maybe others called it a novel but Tolstoy rejected the label. I'm not sure.
Either way, the word "novel" wasn't necessarily equivalent to how it is used today: any book length work of narrative fiction.
Though watch out, this is a rabbit hole. Just look up novel on wikipedia. You'll see a big orange message at the top which is the first sign there is a problem. And then the article is excessively long. A lot of ink has been spilled trying to define what a "novel" is.
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#16Avatar is Pocahontas repainted. Fight me.
Actually, when I saw the first Avatar, I thought that it was much closer to the "Treasure of Silver Lake" ("Der Schatz im Silbersee") by Karl May, combined with many scenes from the earlier novels of Karl May.
Many characters of that series of Karl May novels have a direct mapping, e.g.:
Old Shatterhand => Jake Sully
Winnetou => Neytiri (gender swapped)
tamed mustang => tamed flying dragon
and many others.
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#17Avatar is Pocahontas repainted. Fight me.
And Pocahontas is Fern Gully repainted
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#18Which Jane Austen book has a character rip off their own arm and use it as a club?
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#19Which Jane Austen book has a character rip off their own arm and use it as a club?
That would be Fanny Price
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's what's funny. You know what they used to call a book that foregrounded the soap opera elements you're talking about? A novel. That's why Tolstoy called Anna Karenina his first novel. Now, if you go to Wikipedia, War and Peace is also categorized as a novel. What else could you call it? But it's funny to imagine a time when novel was a genre.
What else would one call War and Peace at its time?
It is kind of like how modern art doesn't mean modern today. It means that time period where people called art "modern". Novel meant new as in "novel science results". It was used differentiate prose (the new style at the time) from epic poetry back in the 16 hundreds and stuck. How that translates to Russian IDK.