Some people worked on this. They don’t train on it directly. They use AI to rewrite the content “privacy-safe” then train on that….
That sounds very "privacy safe" ...
Google denies 'misleading' reports of Gmail using your emails to train AI
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Re: Google denies 'misleading' reports of Gmail using your emails to train AI
#12With so many settings spread across multiple sections, especially in Workspace accounts, it's challenging to keep track of how existing settings are affected by each new addition. I generally review these regularly, yet find surprises now and then.
Knowing what setting does what in Gmail is becoming difficult by the day.
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#13The only reason I am still using gmail is due to choice paralysis. I do not know which email service to choose and pay for. I do not like Proton. Is Fastmail the way to go? There is also the German one posteo. Should I just use Apple's mail? I'm taking suggestions if you have anything to share.
I've been using mailbox.org for 5 years and like it very much. Cost some 3 EUR per month (actually there's a 50% discount this week).
Dead simple email that just works. Their webUI is fine, but I almost exclusively use it on iOS or macOS with the default mail app. They also have some other features (calendar, office suite, video calls) that I don't use. I really like the option to create up to 25 email aliases.
Re: Google denies 'misleading' reports of Gmail using your emails to train AI
#14The only reason I am still using gmail is due to choice paralysis. I do not know which email service to choose and pay for. I do not like Proton. Is Fastmail the way to go? There is also the German one posteo. Should I just use Apple's mail? I'm taking suggestions if you have anything to share.
I was always afraid to switch from Gmail, knowing the impact it would have. But I switched to Fastmail this year and my experience has been comparatively frictionless. My fear was unfounded.
Re: Google denies 'misleading' reports of Gmail using your emails to train AI
#15The only reason I am still using gmail is due to choice paralysis. I do not know which email service to choose and pay for. I do not like Proton. Is Fastmail the way to go? There is also the German one posteo. Should I just use Apple's mail? I'm taking suggestions if you have anything to share.
I’m happy with https://soverin.net/ – they’re EU based, reasonably priced, and I only use them with external clients anyway.
Re: Google denies 'misleading' reports of Gmail using your emails to train AI
#16The only reason I am still using gmail is due to choice paralysis. I do not know which email service to choose and pay for. I do not like Proton. Is Fastmail the way to go? There is also the German one posteo. Should I just use Apple's mail? I'm taking suggestions if you have anything to share.
Fastmail is the way. These are people for whom email is their job and focus and you get everything that comes with that, including good and responsive customer service.
But their servers are in the US.
Re: Google denies 'misleading' reports of Gmail using your emails to train AI
#17The only reason I am still using gmail is due to choice paralysis. I do not know which email service to choose and pay for. I do not like Proton. Is Fastmail the way to go? There is also the German one posteo. Should I just use Apple's mail? I'm taking suggestions if you have anything to share.
I use fastmail for my and my family's mail, with many domains. It works fantastically, the android app and web app are very good, and it allows any settings, forwarding, clients, automation that I could think of.
The other features (files, file sharing, calendar) are also well designed and get out of your way.
Re: Google denies 'misleading' reports of Gmail using your emails to train AI
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fastmail is the way. These are people for whom email is their job and focus and you get everything that comes with that, including good and responsive customer service.
But their servers are in the US.
GDPR applies if you're in the EU regardless, but it would be nice to have it split like bitwarden[.eu].
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#19When you disable all of these features, eventually it turns off email categorisation.
At first this was annoying to me because it’s obviously a very good feature. But the last few weeks have been quite revealing: I’ve been receiving and unsubscribing from tons of emails I had no idea I even received regularly, because categories buried them away.
I wonder how much of newsletter marketing (and paid email marketing) is being propped up by the GMail categories just silently ingesting tons of stuff that people never read or see (but also never unsubscribe from)
Re: Google denies 'misleading' reports of Gmail using your emails to train AI
#20The only reason I am still using gmail is due to choice paralysis. I do not know which email service to choose and pay for. I do not like Proton. Is Fastmail the way to go? There is also the German one posteo. Should I just use Apple's mail? I'm taking suggestions if you have anything to share.
I was always afraid to switch from Gmail, knowing the impact it would have. But I switched to Fastmail this year and my experience has been comparatively frictionless. My fear was unfounded.
That's great info. I need some encouragement to make the switch