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Scaleway turns Mac Minis into high‑density, Raspberry Pi–managed servers

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Re: Scaleway turns Mac Minis into high‑density, Raspberry Pi–managed servers

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post #6

not sure why the attach rpi for every mac mini, wouldn't it be cheaper to have one rpi and 9 mac minis connectd to 10 port switch? I also wished one day to make cluster out of Apple TVs - they are very cheap (~150usd for version with ethernet) and most likely the new upcoming version will have more powerful A-series apple sillicon. I guess tvOS is just very restricted.

You mean a kvm switch?

Re: Scaleway turns Mac Minis into high‑density, Raspberry Pi–managed servers

#12
post #9

https://www-uploads.scaleway.com/Mac_mini_rack_1_e31ad1da6e.... This is not the image I expected to encounter under the title, “high density”. Make those sleds taller and do three, maybe four per sled with a pair of large diameter fans. That’ll would be high density. This is medium at best.

Seriosuly, like surely they could've at least used 1 rpi per rack ?

Or find cable with matching length?

Re: Scaleway turns Mac Minis into high‑density, Raspberry Pi–managed servers

#13
Unlike the old rack mount options for the trashcan Mac Pro units (eg https://photos.imgix.com/racking-mac-pros), it doesn't seem like much thought has been given here to a front-to-back airflow.

I'm also surprised they're touting the density of this solution— seems like the obvious thing would be to put the Minis on their sides. A 4U chassis has 17.5cm vertical space in it, and a Mac Mini is 17cm wide. With the Mini being 2in in height, that suggests 8-9 Minis in a 4U rack, vs 2 Minis in a 2U rack for Scaleway's trays.

EDIT: Here's a commercially-available solution that's 6/4U: https://www.mk1manufacturing.com/Rack-Mount-for-6-M4-mac-min..., you'd think it could basically be this but with the management plane behind or in front. And as others have said, making the management plane be more shared, so it's not 1:1.

Re: Scaleway turns Mac Minis into high‑density, Raspberry Pi–managed servers

#14
post #7

I’d like to know what’s on the baseboard that the Pi is attached to

Looks like a relay so probably to powercycle it. Don't think everything needed is included in the picture. Definitely additional cables for power and networking would need to be added

And yet they have the pi backward so the networking ports are buried. I have no idea what’s going on here.

Re: Scaleway turns Mac Minis into high‑density, Raspberry Pi–managed servers

#15
post #9

https://www-uploads.scaleway.com/Mac_mini_rack_1_e31ad1da6e.... This is not the image I expected to encounter under the title, “high density”. Make those sleds taller and do three, maybe four per sled with a pair of large diameter fans. That’ll would be high density. This is medium at best.

Interesting that they run them upside down.

Re: Scaleway turns Mac Minis into high‑density, Raspberry Pi–managed servers

#16
I was interested in provisioning one of these a few months back through Scaleway, but couldn't navigate their sign-up process without it dumping me back to the start everytime. Nor did I receive a reply when I e-mailed their support e-mail.

I don't know if that's changed (they had odd pricing too, like Startup vs. Business, of which the difference wasn't clear), but aware. I hope someone has more success than I did.

Re: Scaleway turns Mac Minis into high‑density, Raspberry Pi–managed servers

#17
post #6

not sure why the attach rpi for every mac mini, wouldn't it be cheaper to have one rpi and 9 mac minis connectd to 10 port switch? I also wished one day to make cluster out of Apple TVs - they are very cheap (~150usd for version with ethernet) and most likely the new upcoming version will have more powerful A-series apple sillicon. I guess tvOS is just very restricted.

What would you do with a cluster of Apple TVs?

Re: Scaleway turns Mac Minis into high‑density, Raspberry Pi–managed servers

#19
post #9

https://www-uploads.scaleway.com/Mac_mini_rack_1_e31ad1da6e.... This is not the image I expected to encounter under the title, “high density”. Make those sleds taller and do three, maybe four per sled with a pair of large diameter fans. That’ll would be high density. This is medium at best.

The fan would move the heat off that given sled but if the channel between the sleds can’t remove that extra heat you probably didn’t help yourself.

My point is the picture doesn’t show any details on the room or what’s outside the rack so it’s hard to know what’s optimal.

Re: Scaleway turns Mac Minis into high‑density, Raspberry Pi–managed servers

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post #15
post #9

https://www-uploads.scaleway.com/Mac_mini_rack_1_e31ad1da6e.... This is not the image I expected to encounter under the title, “high density”. Make those sleds taller and do three, maybe four per sled with a pair of large diameter fans. That’ll would be high density. This is medium at best.

Interesting that they run them upside down.

It’s because the power button is on the bottom.
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