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'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant doctors
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#12I suppose they could expand medical school admissions for Americans, why don’t they? It’s not for lack of talented people, the class size quotas are an archaic classist and partly racist way of thinking that have nothing to do with meritocracy, but instead are imposed to make sure that more undesirables don’t join the “elites” of society.
The AMA pushed for limited residency slots ~20 years ago, as they feared too many doctors would cut their own incomes.
For some reason, residencies are paid by the federal government. Not sure of the history there - I find it hard to believe a resident doctor is a net-loss for the hospital system. Either way, I can't find any legal cap on number of residents - only a cap on funded slots (ie, a hospital could hire more residents and pay them out of pocket).
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> I don’t want a doctor who has another country they call home. I want a doctor who feels some blood and soil attachment to their patients.
But like... why? Why does that matter at all?
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We won't train any more doctors - there's a cap on the number of funded residency slots in the US (as lobbied for by the AMA back during the Clinton admin, IIRC). Hospitals have little to gain by self-funding slots (assuming that's even allowed).
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> I want a doctor who feels some blood and soil attachment to their patients.
"Blood and soil (German: Blut und Boden) is a nationalist phrase and concept of a racially defined national body ("Blood") united with a settlement area ("Soil"). Originating in the German völkisch movement, it was used extensively by Nazi Germany, ...
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> I don’t want a doctor who has another country they call home. I want a doctor who feels some blood and soil attachment to their patients. But like... why? Why does that matter at all?
The same reason a parent cares for their child more than a random strangers? Cultures and people matter.
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#20Great news for Canada. Thanks we'll keep our doctors. Bad news for New York, New Jersey, California, Maryland; or more aptly labelled democrat controlled states. Probably the only republican state impacted will be florida, but they often buck trends like this. they'll keep their immigrant doctors.
The article states rural areas tend to be served by a higher proportion of immigrant doctors. The densely populated coasts will probably be fine - the higher salaries will continue to attract US-born and limited immigrant doctors.
Doctors are paid more in rural areas than in big cities, a reverse of most other professions.