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Virgin and Qantas to ban use of portable power banks after string of fires

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Re: Virgin and Qantas to ban use of portable power banks after string of fires

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Post by nxm »

JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #9
ash_091 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A train can go from "cruising speed" to letting passengers off to escape a fire in about a minute. A plane might take anywhere from five minutes to several hours to be able to safely let passengers out. Personally I feel that's a good enough reason to impose more robust restrictions on Things Which May Cause Fire on planes compared to trains. Especially in the case of lithium batteries where they're more or less impo…

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Cigarette fires and battery fires are not same in terms of efforts to put them out. Look up electric vehicle fires and what it takes to contain them

Re: Virgin and Qantas to ban use of portable power banks after string of fires

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Post by Krssst »

JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #3

Meanwhile you can carry a nuclear bomb on a train and nobody even bothers to check the id or ticket up until you are on board. Irrational fear of flight strikes again, it's a very long list actually of standards that aviation has to comply with in order not to thrive but to merely exist , all because people are irrationally fearful about being suspended mid air. It's the same thing for nuclear

Uncontrolled fire in a plane is almost certain death if you don't land within minutes. You cannot land once the fire takes out the cables necessary for flight controls. Airplanes can still operate until landing after various mistreatments but uncontrolled fire is not one of them.

Re: Virgin and Qantas to ban use of portable power banks after string of fires

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Post by jerlam »

China bans non-certified power banks on their domestic flights, even if they're not in use. And the certification authority is China-specific, they don't care about UL or any others.

https://www.travelofchina.com/china-power-bank-ban-2025-xiao...

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Post by mikestew »

lisbbb wrote: post #5

Doesn't every cell phone have a highly volatile, made in China battery in it as well? What if they started banning smartphones on flights! Oh the humanity!

What if, indeed…

https://www.skolnik.com/blog/how-airlines-are-enforcing-the-...

Re: Virgin and Qantas to ban use of portable power banks after string of fires

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Post by joeblubaugh »

I’ve been getting this message on international flights for the last two months already - no using power banks at any time on the plane.

At some point lithium ion battery packs are going to be completely excluded from luggage and it’ll be chaos

Re: Virgin and Qantas to ban use of portable power banks after string of fires

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

Krssst wrote: post #12
JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #3

Meanwhile you can carry a nuclear bomb on a train and nobody even bothers to check the id or ticket up until you are on board. Irrational fear of flight strikes again, it's a very long list actually of standards that aviation has to comply with in order not to thrive but to merely exist , all because people are irrationally fearful about being suspended mid air. It's the same thing for nuclear

Uncontrolled fire in a plane is almost certain death if you don't land within minutes. You cannot land once the fire takes out the cables necessary for flight controls. Airplanes can still operate until landing after various mistreatments but uncontrolled fire is not one of them.

What are the odds that a lithium battery would cause uncontrolled fire? We are around them daily, ever since the 80s-90s , to this day I have never seen one in person.

Look at this guy, he puts a screwdriver through phones for show off on youtube, intentionally damaging the battry...nothing dangerous or uncontrolled happens, the little smoke is the equivalent of a couple of cigarettes.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gcjfJfbOVkY

And all the psychological tests on pilots, no train or bus pilot has to go through the same stuff even though they have a similar number of souls on board

I'll go to my grave claiming that aviation has to fight for its existence on a daily basis by clearing impossible standards because people are scared , intuitively scared of flight as humans aren't supposed to be able to do that and all our ancestors who tried failed miserably by falling off a tree or something.

The percentage of people who get the physics of why a plane flies are less than 1% of those who ever flew, and that is not even the majority of the 9 billion humans yet, hell not even a quarter.

"If your phone falls through the seats DON'T TRY TO RECOVER IT as the seat (which is fixed) might damage it and cause a fire" lmao

Next thing they'd be making announcements on how to seat as a particularly fat individual missing their seat could land on their ass and fall through the fusolage causing a decompression...give me a break

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