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Re: Pimped Amiga 500

#11

I've never experienced the original Amiga and I probably never will. I would however be open to emulating the machine. Are there any good resources for people like who would like to try out the whole ecosystem as a complete newbie in 2025? My knowledge about Amiga is close to zero.

Buy a MiSTer FPGA and run Amiga Vision on it. You can plug in a proper keyboard and joystick and you can map jump to a button instead of up as it traditionally is on Amiga. I have to admit that it's better than using my A500/A1200s.

Oh wow, AmigaVision even runs on an Analogue Pocket - going to have to give this a try.

Re: Pimped Amiga 500

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post #10

I've never experienced the original Amiga and I probably never will. I would however be open to emulating the machine. Are there any good resources for people like who would like to try out the whole ecosystem as a complete newbie in 2025? My knowledge about Amiga is close to zero.

I am very happy with AmigaVision, packaged by Alex Limi (of early Mozilla Firefox UX/product fame) et al. AmigaVision is a carefully curated collection of game and demo configurations for the Amiga computer platform, as well as a minimal Workbench setup with useful utilities and apps, wrapped in a user-friendly launcher. https://amiga.vision/ https://github.com/amigavision/AmigaVision I run it on a Mister FPGA but th…

MiSTer, especially the new cheaper builds (MisterPi) are by far the best way to play the old consoles if you want to play on a TV and well worth the $200.

Re: Pimped Amiga 500

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am very happy with AmigaVision, packaged by Alex Limi (of early Mozilla Firefox UX/product fame) et al. AmigaVision is a carefully curated collection of game and demo configurations for the Amiga computer platform, as well as a minimal Workbench setup with useful utilities and apps, wrapped in a user-friendly launcher. https://amiga.vision/ https://github.com/amigavision/AmigaVision I run it on a Mister FPGA but th…

MiSTer, especially the new cheaper builds (MisterPi) are by far the best way to play the old consoles if you want to play on a TV and well worth the $200.

Yeah. (Sorry, somehow didn't read your comment about the same AmigaVision before commenting.)

I find myself wishing for something like AmigaVision for e.g. the IBM PC.

The launcher should be in either classic text mode or VGA 640x480x16 colors with custom palettes like those cool disk mags. And of course tracker background music.

There is some similar effort called 0MHz based on the eXoDOS project, but I'm not sure I like it as much. Needs more work. And a lot more curation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuJXLOMxIkI&t=220s

Re: Pimped Amiga 500

#15

I've never experienced the original Amiga and I probably never will. I would however be open to emulating the machine. Are there any good resources for people like who would like to try out the whole ecosystem as a complete newbie in 2025? My knowledge about Amiga is close to zero.

Buy a MiSTer FPGA and run Amiga Vision on it. You can plug in a proper keyboard and joystick and you can map jump to a button instead of up as it traditionally is on Amiga. I have to admit that it's better than using my A500/A1200s.

Thanks, your comment made me buy the icode prebuilt preloaded MiSTer FPGA, 128mb ram, hope that is sufficient for Amiga Vision. I used to own an Amiga 500 with internal HDD, long ago. Guru meditations still exist?

https://www.icode.com/product/mister-fpga-kit-terasic-de10-n...

Re: Pimped Amiga 500

#16

I've never experienced the original Amiga and I probably never will. I would however be open to emulating the machine. Are there any good resources for people like who would like to try out the whole ecosystem as a complete newbie in 2025? My knowledge about Amiga is close to zero.

Buy a MiSTer FPGA and run Amiga Vision on it. You can plug in a proper keyboard and joystick and you can map jump to a button instead of up as it traditionally is on Amiga. I have to admit that it's better than using my A500/A1200s.

getting the hardware is only half the battle. Hard agree with going for a MiSTer setup however it's quite an expense for someone dipping a toe in.

ultimately it's hard to prescribe the "definitive" amiga experience in 2025 to a total newbie. At a surface level, for many people, amiga ownership was simply a console like experience -> Buy an amiga 500, and shovel game disks into it, play game, turn it off. Replicating that is super easy with either just a raspberry pi and the PiMiga distro (see the Chris Edwards youtube channel for details) or even retropie comes with support for amiga OOTB however it comes with the caveat of having a little background knowledge of the hardware combinations available. The ABSOLUTE easiest way of getting a taste of amiga is to get hold of a "The A500" mini console which comes with pre-packaged games (but also lets you run your own once you've got to the end of enjoying the 30 or so pack-ins).

There is the WinUAE emulator for windows that's excellent (so good, you can use it to prep real-world Hard drives for actual physical amigas) but it's complicated without prior knowledge of the OG hardware combinations.

The most common setup back in the day (for UKers playing games at least) was an OG Amiga 500 with OCS (Original Chip Set) with 0.5MB RAM(ChipRAM - essentially shared system and graphics memory) and maybe an optional extra 0.5 MB upgrade (FastRAM - CPU only memory, though often known now as SlowRAM because it was directly accessable by the CPU only but had to share the bus with the chip RAM) and 1.3 Kickstart ROM.

This was later upgraded by the A500+ which came with ECS (Enhanced Chip Set) which gave a few added graphical modes, 1MB of Chip RAM (typically upgradable to +1MB fast RAM) and kickstart 2.0. it broke compatibility with some games and was a min spec for others.

This was replaced directly by the A1200 which came with an upgraded CPU (68020ec at 14 MHz) AGA chipset (16.7 mil colour palette, 256 on screen), internal IDE interface and kickstart 3.0 with 2MB ChipRAM out of the box.

The A500+ was also indirectly replaced with the A600. Essentially a A500+ mini - they updated the manuafcturing to surface mount, reduced the PCB size significantly and removed the numberpad from the keyboard and added the IDE interface from the A1200. it was supposed to be a cost reduced version but initially cost more to make than the outgoing A500+. It was hated at the time because it cost more at retail and had less features (lack of keypad broke a lot of software, IDE interface wasn't seen as beneficial at the time and the side expansion port was replaced by a PCMCIA port which again only had much more expensive peripherals at the time) The rest are the "Big Box" amigas - computers with a separate keyboard from the main box case: A1000 (the OG or just "Amiga" when it launched)

A2000 - The workhorse version of thw A500 with expansion, processor,video upgrade slots.

A1500 - a UK specific cut down version of the A2000 just launched to inflict trademark damage to a sole trader startup making aftermarket cases for the A500.

A3000 - the first fully 32-bit platform - ECS and 32-bit 680x0 CPUs available (IIRC both 68020 and 68030 though might be wrong about the '020)

A4000 - a big box equivalent to the A1200 - AGA and expansion

A4000T - towerized version of A4000 - the holy grail for collectors and rare as hens teeth.

However in 2025 getting involved with the amiga scene is a huge rabbit hole as the community is so large there are always wonderful projects (such as PiStorm) for enhancing and extending the life of these now very aged machines.

Sorry, this ended up a bit of an essay on what was only supposed to be a quick note...

Re: Pimped Amiga 500

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post #9

I've never experienced the original Amiga and I probably never will. I would however be open to emulating the machine. Are there any good resources for people like who would like to try out the whole ecosystem as a complete newbie in 2025? My knowledge about Amiga is close to zero.

1. Get a copy of the Amiga 3.1 Kickstart ROM (v40) and Workbench disks (for example by legally buying Amiga Forever ... or other ways). If you do buy Amiga Forever, they've put together an Amiga emulation environment for you with lots of software pre-installed. 2. Consider buying AmiKit or using its free version: https://www.amikit.amiga.sk/ -- it needs the aforementioned Kickstart ROM and Workbench Disks, but again…

If the aim is to emulate games, Kickstart 3.1 or even 2.04 shouldn't be the first choice. Backwards compatibility must have been really poor back then; at least I've run into lots of software that will only run on 1.3.

Re: Pimped Amiga 500

#18

I've never experienced the original Amiga and I probably never will. I would however be open to emulating the machine. Are there any good resources for people like who would like to try out the whole ecosystem as a complete newbie in 2025? My knowledge about Amiga is close to zero.

I have multiple real Amigas (jesus, that's a lot of amigas meme), but since I installed PiMiga on a rpi400 with its monitor, that's like 99% what you need amiga for. I even prefer it to my commodore 1084s fleet. Even though I need a CRT shot now and then.

Re: Pimped Amiga 500

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Piling-on here: My A1200 and CD32 haven't been powered-on since 2001. They worked when they went into climate-controlled storage but need to be recapped.

I haven't had luck finding anybody in the US with experience recapping these models who will do the work. The one person I found was unwilling to do the work w/o my verifying if they work now. I think it's a mistake to apply power to them in their current state since that could cause damage.

If anybody has recommendations I'd appreciate it. I'm not looking to cheap-out on this (particularly with the CD32, since I'm the original owner and have all the original packing material, etc). I just want them done right so they can be preserved and used again.

Email is in my profile.

Re: Pimped Amiga 500

#20

Piling-on here: My A1200 and CD32 haven't been powered-on since 2001. They worked when they went into climate-controlled storage but need to be recapped. I haven't had luck finding anybody in the US with experience recapping these models who will do the work. The one person I found was unwilling to do the work w/o my verifying if they work now. I think it's a mistake to apply power to them in their current state sinc…

https://www.reddit.com/r/amiga/wiki/index#wiki_vendors.3A_re...
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