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Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support

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Post by ivanbakel »

graemep wrote: post #5
ivanbakel wrote: post #2

What I'm most curious about, and what the docs are light on detail about: does this mean Thunderbird complies with remote deletion requests (which IIRC, the Exchange protocol suppports)? I have the impression that Microsoft makes this a requirement for Exchange implementations, which is why third-party devices and apps like Apple's Mail cooperate with those requests.

Do you mean recall? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/recall-an-outlook... That only works within an organisation, right? Otherwise you just get an email. I got one recently.

No, Exchange ActiveSync (as the other commenter correctly identified it) really allows an admin to wipe your device - ostensibly of mail, but often of all other data as well.[0]

If your Outlook server disables IMAP & POP3, then the ActiveSync protocol is AFAIK the only way to get in-app emails on your phone. Admins do this so that they can forcibly wipe the device if they "need" to.

0: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients/exchange-...

Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

Nice to see, but unfortunately it's not uncommon for orgs using Outlook/Office to disable Exchange client support and require use of the official clients. It's highly unlikely and maybe not even possible, but I'd like to see desktop and mobile mail clients implement some kind of workaround.

Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support

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Post by graemep »

ivanbakel wrote: post #11
graemep wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean recall? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/recall-an-outlook... That only works within an organisation, right? Otherwise you just get an email. I got one recently.

No, Exchange ActiveSync (as the other commenter correctly identified it) really allows an admin to wipe your device - ostensibly of mail, but often of all other data as well.[0] If your Outlook server disables IMAP & POP3, then the ActiveSync protocol is AFAIK the only way to get in-app emails on your phone. Admins do this so that they can forcibly wipe the device if they "need" to. 0: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-…

I was not sure which you meant.

Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support

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Post by shevy-java »

bnchrch wrote: post #3

While its been a long time since Ive used Thunderbird, I just wanted to take the time to publicly say thank you. Many HNers probably wont (or cant) remember the world of desktop mail clients but basically during the height of MSFT dominance there was only one real mail client: Outlook. Which Microsoft was starting to monetize heavily, ignore UX, and keep it windows only (cant blame them for that). Then Thunderbird ar…

Personally I do not use thunderbird, but one elderly relative requires thunderbird. So I am all in favour of thunderbird getting better. Not everyone is able to use emails in a much simpler way. I actually, back when I was using gmail still, had some +4000 unread messages. I simply can not keep up with regular mail.

Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support

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Post by rkagerer »

seethishat wrote: post #4
ivanbakel wrote: post #2

What I'm most curious about, and what the docs are light on detail about: does this mean Thunderbird complies with remote deletion requests (which IIRC, the Exchange protocol suppports)? I have the impression that Microsoft makes this a requirement for Exchange implementations, which is why third-party devices and apps like Apple's Mail cooperate with those requests.

That would be Active Sync: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients/exchange-... Not sure how Mozilla went about the implementation, but I do agree it would be a concern to verify before using. You can perform the following Exchange ActiveSync tasks: Enable and disable Exchange ActiveSync for users Set policies such as minimum password length, device locking, and maximum failed password attempts Initiate a…

Some clients perform some of those operations in a sandbox. Eg. Nine for Android let's you choose when you set up an account whether a remote wipe command should just wipe that account's local mailbox, or your whole device.
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