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Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?

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Re: Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?

#11

> the very idea of giving the user an on/off switch for LLM level memory is ours. Absurd. You may have independently thought it up, but it is the first and most obvious feature one could imagine if memory is an option.

Exactly my thought as well, in creative idea generation you have creative fluency “how frequently do you have new ideas” and creative originality “how novel are your ideas”

The creative originality of giving an LLM memory is next to zero, is such an obvious next step it’s absurdly laughable that these people are claiming the idea was “theirs” and then extrapolating that it was stolen. I stopped reading at that sentence.

Not only does it show a mindblowing lack of situational awareness on their behalf, but it also shows a huge lack of domain knowledge because people have been experimenting with all forms of additional memory to ALL different AI systems since the 60s. “Add memory to this” (working memory, long term memory, episodic memory) is such a well known thing to do in the entire AI / ML field, it also shows just how disconnected the poster is from existing research.

Re: Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?

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> the very idea of giving the user an on/off switch for LLM level memory is ours. Absurd. You may have independently thought it up, but it is the first and most obvious feature one could imagine if memory is an option.

Well as you may see this was not just an idea but was implemented before chatgpt. https://www.reddit.com/r/LLMDevs/comments/1ou8rvp/comment/no...

And this is not the first time as mentioned. Absurd is you if you think that the chats don't get logged and filtered for certain purposes.

How do you think they report to Law enforcement certain crimes??? Keep your attitude for you please.

Re: Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?

#13

> the very idea of giving the user an on/off switch for LLM level memory is ours. Absurd. You may have independently thought it up, but it is the first and most obvious feature one could imagine if memory is an option.

Well as you may see this was not just an idea but was implemented before chatgpt. https://www.reddit.com/r/LLMDevs/comments/1ou8rvp/comment/no... And this is not the first time as mentioned. Absurd is you if you think that the chats don't get logged and filtered for certain purposes. How do you think they report to Law enforcement certain crimes??? Keep your attitude for you please.

Yes, they are logging. I did not say anything about that.

I said it is absurd to think this is such a unique feature, it is absurd to think that the likely explanation is OpenAI stole it, rather than independently invented it.

If you're racing to develop AI interfaces, you should expect that one of the many people on the big corps many product teams have independently thought up obvious features like this, since before the engineering team even finished their proof of concept.

Re: Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?

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> the very idea of giving the user an on/off switch for LLM level memory is ours. Absurd. You may have independently thought it up, but it is the first and most obvious feature one could imagine if memory is an option.

Exactly my thought as well, in creative idea generation you have creative fluency “how frequently do you have new ideas” and creative originality “how novel are your ideas” The creative originality of giving an LLM memory is next to zero, is such an obvious next step it’s absurdly laughable that these people are claiming the idea was “theirs” and then extrapolating that it was stolen. I stopped reading at that senten…

You are entitled to your opinion and me to my facts.

If the point of discussion here is to downvote me, there you are correct (cause the post I submit keep getting points but my karma goes down, hah funny).

Maybe I am in the wrong place, and so are all the lawsuits that claim otherwise.

Re: Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly my thought as well, in creative idea generation you have creative fluency “how frequently do you have new ideas” and creative originality “how novel are your ideas” The creative originality of giving an LLM memory is next to zero, is such an obvious next step it’s absurdly laughable that these people are claiming the idea was “theirs” and then extrapolating that it was stolen. I stopped reading at that senten…

You are entitled to your opinion and me to my facts. If the point of discussion here is to downvote me, there you are correct (cause the post I submit keep getting points but my karma goes down, hah funny). Maybe I am in the wrong place, and so are all the lawsuits that claim otherwise.

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Re: Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly my thought as well, in creative idea generation you have creative fluency “how frequently do you have new ideas” and creative originality “how novel are your ideas” The creative originality of giving an LLM memory is next to zero, is such an obvious next step it’s absurdly laughable that these people are claiming the idea was “theirs” and then extrapolating that it was stolen. I stopped reading at that senten…

You are entitled to your opinion and me to my facts. If the point of discussion here is to downvote me, there you are correct (cause the post I submit keep getting points but my karma goes down, hah funny). Maybe I am in the wrong place, and so are all the lawsuits that claim otherwise.

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Re: Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?

#18

A company that stole all the creative material it could get its hands on, is stealing more? Color me unsurprised.

That´s the whole point, you see!

You are not surprised at all, even though you know for certain the company it is already doing it everywhere. So we should assume that this is normal? Isn´t this concerning?

This is unacceptable for me, I will not pretend that is all right, and I am doing something about it.

Re: Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?

#19

A company that stole all the creative material it could get its hands on, is stealing more? Color me unsurprised.

That´s the whole point, you see! You are not surprised at all, even though you know for certain the company it is already doing it everywhere. So we should assume that this is normal? Isn´t this concerning? This is unacceptable for me, I will not pretend that is all right, and I am doing something about it.

Best of luck!

Re: Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That´s the whole point, you see! You are not surprised at all, even though you know for certain the company it is already doing it everywhere. So we should assume that this is normal? Isn´t this concerning? This is unacceptable for me, I will not pretend that is all right, and I am doing something about it.

Best of luck!

Thank you, all the best to you too.
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