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Scientists now know that bees can process time, a first in insects

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Re: Scientists now know that bees can process time, a first in insects

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Post by johnisgood »

baxtr wrote: post #9
johnisgood wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love bees and ants, but I love bees the most. I would recommend people to study the behavior of bees and ants. Additionally, honey, propolis, etc. are super healthy, and we can thank bees for that.

Not that I want to curb your enthusiasm for bees, but… I recently read that honey bees in particular get the most attention from humans lately, so they are kept in high numbers. This has some adversarial effect on other pollinators, which hurts ecosystems more than it helps.

Why would what you said curb my enthusiasm for bees though?

Can you provide me more specifics on this by the way?

> This has some adversarial effect on other pollinators, which hurts ecosystems more than it helps.

What are those adversarial effects, what other pollinators, and how does it hurt the ecosystem more than it helps?

I do not mind bees having kept in higher numbers, and beekeepers can do it anywhere without affecting the ecosystem, I believe.

Re: Scientists now know that bees can process time, a first in insects

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Post by baxtr »

johnisgood wrote: post #11
baxtr wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that I want to curb your enthusiasm for bees, but… I recently read that honey bees in particular get the most attention from humans lately, so they are kept in high numbers. This has some adversarial effect on other pollinators, which hurts ecosystems more than it helps.

Why would what you said curb my enthusiasm for bees though? Can you provide me more specifics on this by the way? > This has some adversarial effect on other pollinators, which hurts ecosystems more than it helps. What are those adversarial effects, what other pollinators, and how does it hurt the ecosystem more than it helps? I do not mind bees having kept in higher numbers, and beekeepers can do it anywhere without…

I am no expert at all in this topic! So please take this with a grain of salt. I just have the feeling (maybe wrongly) that the love and focus for bees is having detrimental/ unwanted effects on the ecosystem.

Here some more articles / discussions:

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44505552

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44792207

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35668879

Re: Scientists now know that bees can process time, a first in insects

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Post by johnisgood »

baxtr wrote: post #12
johnisgood wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would what you said curb my enthusiasm for bees though? Can you provide me more specifics on this by the way? > This has some adversarial effect on other pollinators, which hurts ecosystems more than it helps. What are those adversarial effects, what other pollinators, and how does it hurt the ecosystem more than it helps? I do not mind bees having kept in higher numbers, and beekeepers can do it anywhere without…

I am no expert at all in this topic! So please take this with a grain of salt. I just have the feeling (maybe wrongly) that the love and focus for bees is having detrimental/ unwanted effects on the ecosystem. Here some more articles / discussions: * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44505552 * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44792207 * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35668879

My love for bees is more about their behavior (similar to how I find ants fascinating), and their "products" that is honey, propolis, beeswax, and so on. I am simply fascinated by their behaviors, and propolis is very healthy!

Re: Scientists now know that bees can process time, a first in insects

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Post by nkrisc »

michaelcampbell wrote: post #14

> Scientists now know that bees can process time, a first in insects We have no idea what other insects can do this or when they got the ability. Sounds more like a first in Scientists. (tongue somewhat in cheek)

Yes, it means it’s the first insects we know of with this ability. It of course has no bearing on whether other insects can and we simply don’t know yet.

Re: Scientists now know that bees can process time, a first in insects

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Post by 867-5309 »

johnisgood wrote: post #13
baxtr wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am no expert at all in this topic! So please take this with a grain of salt. I just have the feeling (maybe wrongly) that the love and focus for bees is having detrimental/ unwanted effects on the ecosystem. Here some more articles / discussions: * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44505552 * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44792207 * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35668879

My love for bees is more about their behavior (similar to how I find ants fascinating), and their "products" that is honey, propolis, beeswax, and so on. I am simply fascinated by their behaviors, and propolis is very healthy!

that read like "source please" then "sauce is yummy"

Re: Scientists now know that bees can process time, a first in insects

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Post by johnisgood »

867-5309 wrote: post #17
johnisgood wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My love for bees is more about their behavior (similar to how I find ants fascinating), and their "products" that is honey, propolis, beeswax, and so on. I am simply fascinated by their behaviors, and propolis is very healthy!

that read like "source please" then "sauce is yummy"

I am not sure what you are trying to imply.

If you are referring to what I asked: "What are those adversarial effects, what other pollinators, and how does it hurt the ecosystem more than it helps?", then all I have to say about it is that I am just genuinely curious.

Re: Scientists now know that bees can process time, a first in insects

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Post by an0malous »

sitkack wrote: post #4

We are learning so many wonderful things about Bees! They can count https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21222227 Bees play https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33369572 https://www.science.org/content/article/are-these-bumble-bee... All of this reinforces my belief that nearly everything is conscious and aware, we differ in a capabilities and resolution but we are all more similar than we are different. Spider Cogni…

What is your definition of “conscious” here? Like it has thoughts and feelings?

Re: Scientists now know that bees can process time, a first in insects

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Post by ilt »

sitkack wrote: post #4

We are learning so many wonderful things about Bees! They can count https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21222227 Bees play https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33369572 https://www.science.org/content/article/are-these-bumble-bee... All of this reinforces my belief that nearly everything is conscious and aware, we differ in a capabilities and resolution but we are all more similar than we are different. Spider Cogni…

Consciousness is a spectrum.
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